> Can it be folded right into Wikipedia?
Well, the funding problem for a separate online surveyor's handbook would be much more manageable, for one, and I'm not sure what the benefits of merging it with Wikipedia would be, particularly considering the prospect of drive-by editing. Imagine what some individual with Richard Schaut's view of boundaries could do to virtually any Wikipedia entry dealing with legal aspects, for example. There may be some way of limiting editing rights that I'm not aware of. I haven't studied all the details of Wikipedia.
That is the idea, Northern, but not the famous one.
Maybe it was from Justice Thomas Cooley?
Anyway, it fits real good in these discussions.
Keith
A.C. Mulford
> Anyway, it fits real good in these discussions.
It does if you aren't familiar with what A.C. Mulford actually did in his own work.
Here's my personal favorite from him:
>The problems of boundary lie at the foundation of all surveying, for one must know where a line is before he can measure it, and the solution of these problems calls for the same powers of accurate observation and of consecutive and logical though that are demanded for successful work in any branch of modern science.
"Boundaries and Landmarks", A.C. Mulford, Van Nostrand Co., NY, 1912, Pg. 87
Tree ID info would be helpful. Soil and rock ID info.
Great post, Deral!
Most surveyors will understand what you are talking about, and others will not.
You know you are right and I agree.
Keith
GIS
> Most surveyors will understand what you are talking about, and others will not.
> You know you are right and I agree.
So, are you wishing that you'd spent your career in GIS, Keith? :>
A.C. Mulford
Yes, at least you have the author right! Thanks Kent.
Here is the quote that I was looking for:
"For after all, when it comes to a question of the stability of property and the peace of the community, it is far more important to have a somewhat faulty measurement of the spot where the line truly exists than it is to have an extremely accurate measurement of the place where the line does not exist at all."
From A. C. Mulford
Every time I read of a surveyor moving a monument 0.18', I think of this statement.
Keith
And that fellow surveyors
should be on your mind when thinking that junior corners do not bend senior lines; like some on here believe.
Keith
Well, you can write your views up :>
> should be on your mind when thinking that junior corners do not bend senior lines; like some on here believe.
Well, I'm sure you'll have no difficulty writing a satisfactory explanation of your views. If you're correct, you'll be able to provide a convincing entry. If you're wrong, it will be still worth keeping to show how some weird ideas circulate.
Well, you can write your views up :>
I think my views probably would not fit in your new cookbook of measuring techniques, so I will bid you farewell and good luck with your writings.
How about a list of all syndicate, i.e., Benson type GLO Surveyors and their location of practice, or in this instance, location of non-practice. Nothing like spending two days searching for a 1/4 corner in dense brush on a side slope in 102 degree heat that was never set.
Kent
Why do you try and interpret my views wrong all the time?
Just because GIS is a fact of life and most surveyors realize it, I was not in that world in my career.
Keith
Amen to Tree ID, Ryan. I get a few every once in a while that I can't seem to locate in my tree guide. (Or at least I used to on the other side of the state. Not a problem when your working area includes the town of Notrees.)
Of course, posting here is a pretty good wiki. Just not organized/indexed.
Tideland issues and how they vary by state.
Apportionment of accreted lands.
Would be two items that I would suggest...
I will assume that the basis field practice would be covered, but add a little section on the correct use of a bi-pod....
Kent
> Why do you try and interpret my views wrong all the time?
Hey, I'm just trying to help you figure out what you mean. You were getting all enthused about GIS and it wasn't clear that you were getting all enthused about someone else spending a career at the GIS factory instead of surveying. :>
> How about a list of all syndicate, i.e., Benson type GLO Surveyors and their location of practice, or in this instance, location of non-practice.
Yes, that's an excellent idea, a summary of experience following, or attempting to follow some particular surveyor with a description of what was concluded about his practices.
I'd like to see a dissertation on how an original government corner, monumented 150+ years ago with a scribed wood post, morphs into a "found PK nail in pavement". It happens... I can show you many corner certificates, but I just never found out how it happens. 😉
> > This would be a good topic for the "Surveyors Gone Wild", "Rare Aberrations In Surveying" or "Fence Line Surveying In Wisconsin" categories.
>
> Actually, it turns out that Richard's pet ideas aren't even reflected in Wisconsin statutes or case law. Surveyors still have to decide which part of the section that fence line meanders through since Wisconsin statutes specifically provide that adverse possession doesn't alter the original government subdivision.
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> What would be interesting would be to identify the most commonly cited Cooley decisions such as Zanger v. Diehl and give a discussion of what was really at issue in the case from a surveying perspective as well as the less quoted statements by Cooley dealing with the paramount value of original corners. That would add reality to the results.
An excellent example of McMillan's ignorance of Wisc. law and law in general.
It would be best for McMillan to unearth his post of Judon Famborough's "Use it or Lose it" article explaining Texas law instead of his senile maunderings about his own misunderstandings.
Richard Schaut
Dig, Measure, Judge, Preserve
Better add Research before Dig... you gotta know what to dig for.
Dig, Measure, Judge, Preserve
> Better add Research before Dig... you gotta know what to dig for.
I consider "Dig" to cover both figurative digging through old records as well as literal work with the shovel. "Dig" refers generally to the investigative aspects of surveying.
