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imaudigger, post: 370769, member: 7286 wrote: That is irrelevant. Because you set monuments down the center of the road, there are plans being made as we speak to have it graded. That's juts how it works.

Isn't that just the key to "Repeat Business"?

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 10:52 am
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Compass is another good app for the android phone that will add crosshairs to the picture that can be used to show a view down a boundary or to show the object of observation.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 11:17 am
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imaudigger, post: 370769, member: 7286 wrote: Because you set monuments down the center of the road, there are plans being made as we speak to have it graded.

The saving factor in this case is that the cheapest way to improve that driveway would be to lay road base on top of it. The subsurface material consists of alternating layers of hard and weathered limestone which, when you run a grader over it, yield an irregular set of stairsteps formed by the hard limestone layers. Its usually easier to fill between the risers instead of knocking them down. Naturally, highway construction is a different story. This is small-time dirtwork contractor technology I have in mind.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 12:19 pm
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imaudigger, post: 370769, member: 7286 wrote: That is irrelevant. Because you set monuments down the center of the road, there are plans being made as we speak to have it graded. That's juts how it works.

I set a couple of corners in the middle of a beach not too long ago. I remember thinking to myself as I set them, "The only thing taking these out will be the salt from the ocean." About 30 minutes later, a tractor grading the beach in the area for some unknown reason rolled it's grader blade right over my rods.... On the topic though, I dig up iron rods with caps in the centerline of graded dirt roads all the time. The neighbors do not like the temporary potholes but for the most part they are all straight up and down about .50' deep. Every now and again I have make a rather large hole to spin a bent rod to replace it thanks to the county grading services.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 2:28 pm
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Brian McEachern, post: 370799, member: 9299 wrote: ...On the topic though, I dig up iron rods with caps in the centerline of graded dirt roads all the time. The neighbors do not like the temporary potholes but for the most part they are all straight up and down about .50' deep. Every now and again I have make a rather large hole to spin a bent rod to replace it thanks to the county grading services.

My crew and I were once actually arrested and charged with "Destruction of Public Property" (21 OK Stat å¤ 21-1760 ). We were taken into custody by a well meaning 'minion of the law' that felt cutting squares out of a new 2" asphalt overlay to expose cut Xs on the concrete below was against State Law. He actually personally felt we had also broken stride of normal social and moral behavior...which only indicated to me his Baptist upbringing...but I digress...

Our boss was required to post bail after our arraignment. A plea agreement was reached and my boss agreed to patch the holes if charges were dropped.

The local asphalt plant tried its best to minimize the amount of hot-mix it dumped into the bed of an old pickup we had obtained. After using around 3 pounds to patch the holes, we were instructed to go spread the rest of the almost a ton of hot mix in the parking lot of....you guessed it...the local Baptist Church.

I always felt there was a conspiracy.....

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 3:24 pm
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The roads I dig up are private ingress easements graded by county operators. The centerline rods are the actual corner. Making potholes is necessary.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 3:34 pm
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paden cash, post: 370805, member: 20 wrote: After using around 3 pounds to patch the holes, we were instructed to go spread the rest of the almost a ton of hot mix in the parking lot of....you guessed it...the local Baptist Church.

Actually, I did not guess that. I was thinking that a County Commissioner's driveway was going to be the punchline. :>

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 4:43 pm
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BTW, sometimes you can draw in the approximate lines running to and from a marker shown in a photo to clarify the relationship of other objects in the vicinity. Here's an example of a photo with a total of four survey markers in place. Well, I suppose that would be five if someone wants to count the fence corner post (even though it actually hasn't been mentioned in any conveyance of record in the chain of title to either of the adjoining tracts). Minor detail, I know.

This is a corner that falls on the right-of-way of a State highway. The Cedar Stake supported by a Rock Mound was set by a surveyor back in the late 1940s to mark his idea of where the prolongation of a line intersected the right-of-way line. He wasn't off by much more than a foot, which was pretty good for him considering that there was a beer joint just down the road a bit and there was a rusty old beer can with the marks of a church key hiding under one of the rocks of the mound.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 5:11 pm
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Nice pincushion :good::good:

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 5:24 pm
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Jones, post: 370821, member: 10458 wrote: Nice pincushion

Yes, I was impressed that two surveyors after the late-40s surveyor had failed to recognize the cedar stake that he had left, propped up by a fairly substantial rock mound and had both just stabbed in their own rebar, the last stabber evidently not finding the earlier stabbing. It took a fair amount of work with a whisk broom and a trowel to clean off the decades of tree litter that had nearly covered the mound and buried the stake (that was leaning well off plumb when I found it). It could well happen again, too. When you're going and blowing with RTK, who's got time for that sort of stuff, anyway?

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 5:54 pm
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Brian McEachern, post: 370807, member: 9299 wrote: The roads I dig up are private ingress easements graded by county operators. The centerline rods are the actual corner. Making potholes is necessary.

Just a couple of days ago I had to set some temporary control to be used on a stretch of repaving using robots and 3D paving. At one end there was a fill with a paved entrance so I set a mag nail in the pavement since it already had the surface course on it. Came back the next day to take a shot on it and the paving crew had cleaned out the paver that afternoon right on top of it. So I got out the pick and chipped up a nice new hole they can fix the next time they go by.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 6:01 pm
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