As I think I've mentioned before, I use Point I.D. Nos. to identify survey markers and calculated points in the metes and bounds descriptions I write and also label the same on maps and sketches using the same Point I.D Nos. They are the same assigned in the field and, in the case of markers set, stamped on the marker.
That turns out to make identifying boundary markers in photographs fairly simple. So, when a client's attorney asked me to make a survey for an easement that would run along an old driveway that had been the subject of a dispute, it was simple enough to send a series of photos along with the metes and bounds description and sketch that shows the location of various points on the centerline of the proposed easement.
It's true that one could just prepare an overlay onto aerial imagery, but ground level is like a site visit.
Ground level photos are good. And from the looks of the terrain, it might stay looking like that for a while.
I made a similar collection of walking photos a few years ago (at the out-of-state client's request) for three old dilapidated residences that would ultimately become a Walgreens. They focused on the boundary, the old fences and a rock retaining wall.
3 months later all of that was gone. But I suppose the photos performed their required function. And they do corroborate the survey, even after the topography has been "sanitized".
I was required to submit annotated photos of GPS set ups to the COE.
Picture showed the actual set-up, time stamped with inset photo of actual mark disk etc.
Annotations were Site ID, monument name, lat/long, datum, project #.
Did it all with Adobe Photo Elements software .
paden cash, post: 370714, member: 20 wrote: I made a similar collection of walking photos a few years ago (at the out-of-state client's request) for three old dilapidated residences that would ultimately become a Walgreens.
Knowing your flair for marketing, I have to wonder whether they were described to the client as "bipedal drone imagery" and billed at an advanced rate. :>
Kent, You done good.
What photo editing software, is your choice?
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Kent McMillan, post: 370719, member: 3 wrote: Knowing your flair for marketing, I have to wonder whether they were described to the client as "bipedal drone imagery" and billed at an advanced rate. :>
Here is another marketing word:
peråáamåábuåálate
pªèörambyªèÎlt/
verb
formal
- walk or travel through or around a place or area, especially for pleasure and in a leisurely way.
"he grew weary of perambulating over rough countryside in bad weather"- BRITISHhistorical
walk around (a parish, forest, etc.) in order to officially assert and record its boundaries.
DDSM:beer::beer:
- BRITISHhistorical
Nate The Surveyor, post: 370722, member: 291 wrote: What photo editing software, is your choice?
I resized the photos in Photoshop Elements 7.0 (you can buy older versions of Elements very cheaply) and added the annotations in Adobe Acrobat 9.
Dan B. Robison, post: 370723, member: 34 wrote: Here is another marketing word:
peråáamåábuåálate
pªèörambyªèÎlt/
verb
formal
- walk or travel through or around a place or area, especially for pleasure and in a leisurely way.
"he grew weary of perambulating over rough countryside in bad weather"
- BRITISHhistorical
walk around (a parish, forest, etc.) in order to officially assert and record its boundaries.
DDSM:beer::beer:
Now that's a billing rate for sure....Professional On-site Investigative Perambulation.
Sounds expensive, doesn't it???
paden cash, post: 370728, member: 20 wrote: Now that's a billing rate for sure....Professional On-site Investigative Perambulation.
Sounds expensive, doesn't it???
Another variant of the invoice line item:
DRONE* imagery
*Duopod Real-time On-site Navigation Expert
How will the land owners maintain that road in the future without destroying multitudes of survey monuments?
imaudigger, post: 370733, member: 7286 wrote: How will the land owners maintain that road in the future without destroying multitudes of survey monuments?
Considering that the driveway doesn't have any pavement to maintain (the markers were drilled into the underlying limestone), if any paving work is ever done, it will have to take the form of laying road base on top of the existing driveway with an asphalt surface course. If the centerline markers are destroyed, they can easily be replaced (by a surveyor) from reference markers that were set outside the easement. If the nearby reference markers are abducted by aliens, the centerline can be reestablished from more distant boundary markers to which the description tied. If the more distant boundary markers disappear without a trace, the whole works can be reestablished from the CORS network using the NAD83 (2011) 2010.0 geodetic coordinates given for all of the points mentioned in the description.
Kent McMillan, post: 370710, member: 3 wrote: As I think I've mentioned before, I use Point I.D. Nos. to identify survey markers and calculated points in the metes and bounds descriptions I write and also label the same on maps and sketches using the same Point I.D Nos. They are the same assigned in the field and, in the case of markers set, stamped on the marker.
That turns out to make identifying boundary markers in photographs fairly simple. So, when a client's attorney asked me to make a survey for an easement that would run along an old driveway that had been the subject of a dispute, it was simple enough to send a series of photos along with the metes and bounds description and sketch that shows the location of various points on the centerline of the proposed easement.
It's true that one could just prepare an overlay onto aerial imagery, but ground level is like a site visit.
That's very cool, Kent. I just tried taking a photo from the "Theodolite" app on my iPhone. It gives time and location data right in the photo.
If I can find an app for iPhone that allows adding notes and arrows like your photos, this would be a home run.
rfc, post: 370740, member: 8882 wrote: If I can find an app for iPhone that allows adding notes and arrows like your photos, this would be a home run.
If what you end up with is an image file that can be converted into a PDF file, you should be able to use the typewriter and markup functions in Adobe Acrobat to add arrows and additional text.
Kent McMillan, post: 370746, member: 3 wrote: If what you end up with is an image file that can be converted into a PDF file, you should be able to use the typewriter and markup functions in Adobe Acrobat to add arrows and additional text.
You rock, Kent. Thanks for the great tip. now I'll be able to find those control points I set two days ago.:-D 
Kent McMillan, post: 370736, member: 3 wrote: Considering that the driveway doesn't have any pavement to maintain (the markers were drilled into the underlying limestone), if any paving work is ever done, it will have to take the form of laying road base on top of the existing driveway with an asphalt surface course. If the centerline markers are destroyed, they can easily be replaced (by a surveyor) from reference markers that were set outside the easement. If the nearby reference markers are abducted by aliens, the centerline can be reestablished from more distant boundary markers to which the description tied. If the more distant boundary markers disappear without a trace, the whole works can be reestablished from the CORS network using the NAD83 (2011) 2010.0 geodetic coordinates given for all of the points mentioned in the description.
It didn't look like something that would get paved... I was thinking along the lines of rural back country I.E. running a backhoe bucket down the road to level it out and maintain the road as a fire break. Of course you can always come back and re-set monuments if they get disturbed.
imaudigger, post: 370752, member: 7286 wrote: It didn't look like something that would get paved... I was thinking along the lines of rural back country I.E. running a backhoe bucket down the road to level it out and maintain the road as a fire break. Of course you can always come back and re-set monuments if they get disturbed.
I think eventually it probably will get a pavement of some sort if the land is ever sold to someone who wants to put some money into improvements. That could happen, but for now what appears in the photo is one of the best roads on the entire 320 acres. I agree with you, though, that setting survey markers in a roadway that will get periodically bladed is an exercise in futility.
A good iPhone app for annotating photos with notes is Phonto. Lines arrows text.
Setting CL marks is great if it gets paved. The pavers can find the CL marks, measure offsets, set stakes, build the road, pave it, and have it all perfectly concentric!
Ha ha ha
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Nate The Surveyor, post: 370761, member: 291 wrote: Setting CL marks is great if it gets paved. The pavers can find the CL marks, measure offsets, set stakes, build the road, pave it, and have it all perfectly concentric!
In that case, they are certainly welcome to do it. I would be surprised if that road has been worked at any time during the last fifty years.
Kent McMillan, post: 370766, member: 3 wrote: I would be surprised if that road has been worked at any time during the last fifty years.
That is irrelevant. Because you set monuments down the center of the road, there are plans being made as we speak to have it graded. That's juts how it works.