Well you probably did not learn about that sort of thing in a book or from a class. But I can tell this the client is already going to bill him for my time , he also shut the grading down for a day . So you can call it making a living but it will cost him .
Yep, it is a flow design thing these days, ran into the same problem with the curb and gutter guy on another project. The engineers wanted gutter, he wanted boc.
> I don't think that a "new" surveyor needs to "pay tribute" to the old surveyor.
> All is fare in love, war & work.
> A client has the option to get a 2nd opinion from another surveyor.
> You submitted your plans to the client. The new surveyor can rely on these plans. If he messed up then you have your plans to claim that your job was correct. If you messed up then he has your plans to claim that your job is incorrect. Everything is already on record. You already rechecked your work & it is correct.
> Either way why lose sleep over the matter.
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> Whether the new surveyor talks to you or not is really up to him right? He is a licensed professional & last time I checked up on my manual of surveying procedures, I do not see any mention about talking to the previous surveyor. Even in college this was never mentioned in any of my surveying class. I remember researching previous survey plans. Archived & registered plans if these are available but not discuss with the previous surveyor.
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> If this scenario is a requirement in your neck of the woods, what would happen if the previous surveyor is dead? closed his business? moved to another location? Will the project stop until he is brought back from the dead? Even me I can't remember the details of a job I did 6 months ago not to mention a job that my crew did for the company.
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> You did your job properly & was paid properly so let the other guy earn a living.
Nice one!! couldn't say it any better than this :good: :good:
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I think that the OP is taking the other surveyor's presence on his site a little too personally.
> .07 is enough to push water back to the building along the side walk or not meet ADA requirements . The site is very tight . Like trying to fit 10 pounds of sugar in a 5 pound sack. You dont understand how tight this is it matters. But still not the point . You can practice as you like but if i show up on anothers job using control and what not i will talk to the surveyor . I have been on jobs were we moved the BM number so we could balance a site with out redrawing plans. not calling me in the beginning does not add up.
0.07' makes that much of a difference? Between site and building elevations? I'm glad that I'm not on a site that tight - never have been.
I have no problem "moving" a benchmark, if it's only by a small amount, or if it's to match an existing floor elevation, and if it doesn't affect environmental concerns. But if it's a fixed and hard/immovable factor, then I'll have an issue with doing that. Some discussions will have to take place - and then the finger-pointing starts.
Again not the point . He can survey away not my concern..
GPS Don't lie
GPS don't lie.
That's what he told the contractor....
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> But I can tell this the client is already going to bill him for my time , he also shut the grading down for a day . So you can call it making a living but it will cost him .
That's what is meant by "all is fare in love and war". 😉
(Okay, it was just a typo, and I'm not criticizing....I just decided that I liked the typo better than the real line)
I agree with djames. The guy gets the job, and moves his way in. It's all part of fair competition and the right of the contractor to hire whoever he wants.
But I agree that he needs to contact the other surveyor if he disagrees with the work. And not teven do that until he first double-checks everything he did to make sure the error isn't in his own house before he goes telling someone else that they are all screwed up. To me it's a bit of a matter of ethics. It wouldn't be in your "survey" manuals. If I ever have a problem with what someone else did (when I need to come off of their work), I will always contact them and see if they did something wrong, or if I am missing something. Will the board go after you for not doing that? Will you get prosecuted for lack of ethics? I doubt it, but I think your research isn't done until you have found out why you don't agree with another surveyor and talked to him about it, as well as getting the guy into a lawsuit for having a bust before talking to him first.
Then the other matter....being upset with the other surveyor horning in on your job. You say you don't care, and I guess you shouldn't. But what kills me in these things, any of us can see how it is much better for the project, the project costs and everything else involved to have one surveyor carry the whole job through. They (the clients) have no clue how hard and time-consuming it is to check all of another surveyor's work, having to refamiliarize yourself with a project and having to basically redo a lot of work already done. I would be shaking my head in the "stupidity" of someone hiring another surveyor three hours away, to redo all of the original surveyor's work in order to do the final staking. Yes, it's fair and legal, but how smart is it (especially if the first surveyor didn't make any significant mistakes or cost the project time or money).
Well, that's my 0.04 er 0.07-worth anyway.
sorry did not even notice the wrong word.
> sorry did not even notice the wrong word.
We all have typos when we are typing. I just found this one funny; otherwise I wouldn't have pointed it out. Sorry, I hope I didn't offend or embarrass.
There are probably multiple typos in many of the posts, including mine. We aren't making some kind of legal document here. I find that I know the appropriate word often ("their" for instance) but I type as I am thinking and when my mind says 'their' my fingers often type "there". Unless I proofread my post, that wrong word goes up. One time I meant to type "adequate" and my fingers typed "aliquot". Didn't make any sense at all.
Having once staked an entire project EXCEPT the actual building guess who got sued when the building was misplaced by the contractor. Didn't actually lose but the insurance company settled out of court for $13.5k and a huge amount of time invested in the defence went uncharged. So in my opinion there is something to be concerned about when someone else works on "your" job.
