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Surveying is so simple (and other myths)

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(@nate-the-surveyor)
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Surveying is like working on a house, that is 200+ yrs old, and expecting to find that ALL the corners are square, all the dimensions match the plan, and that it is "Just a simple little ole job".

You have to UNDERSTAND the methods that were in common practice, in all the bygone era's of surveying. And, the methods of the INDIVIDUAL surveyors.

Wingdings for 90°. 1320 is 1/4 mile.

And, if you measure from the OTHER end, it won't come out the same.

Working in a local subdivision, and alot of it has 1' per 100 extra. Unless it is a slope.

Much of Arkansas was surveyed in the 1830's and 1840's.

Sometimes you find a whole town, laid out SQUARE, when the 40 lines were NOT square, except on paper.

Surveying is so simple.

Shouldn't cost more than 500 bucks should it?

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Posted : April 2, 2014 1:34 pm
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> Surveying is like working on a house, that is 200+ yrs old, and expecting to find that ALL the corners are square, all the dimensions match the plan, and that it is "Just a simple little ole job".
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> You have to UNDERSTAND the methods that were in common practice, in all the bygone era's of surveying. And, the methods of the INDIVIDUAL surveyors.
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> Wingdings for 90°. 1320 is 1/4 mile.
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> And, if you measure from the OTHER end, it won't come out the same.
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> Working in a local subdivision, and alot of it has 1' per 100 extra. Unless it is a slope.
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> Much of Arkansas was surveyed in the 1830's and 1840's.
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> Sometimes you find a whole town, laid out SQUARE, when the 40 lines were NOT square, except on paper.
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> Surveying is so simple.
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> Shouldn't cost more than 500 bucks should it?
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> 🙂
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> N

Expectation is the mother of all frustration.
Oh, one more thing...alot is alittle misspelled. 😉

 
Posted : April 2, 2014 3:41 pm
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I had a young man one year as summer help. He was the son of a developer client that wanted his son to get a good well rounded education. I was truly amazed at how quickly he understood things not being square and jogged property lines and the sort.

Once I asked, "You sure you never surveyed before?"

"Nope."

"You sure seem to pick this stuff up quick" I noted.

"I laid carpet last summer..."

Whoodathunk....?

 
Posted : April 2, 2014 6:07 pm
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Payden, that really got me to chuckle!!!

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Posted : April 2, 2014 7:22 pm
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Ever notice that almost everyone has claimed to have been a 'surveyor' at one time or another in their life thinking what they did was the extent of the profession? "I held the rod one summer". "I used my handheld GPS to determine my property corners". "I found a government bench mark that hadn't been located since 1996". "I helped lay out some aerial targets once for a few days".

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 5:44 am
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Usually the ones I encounter worked for the DOT survey crew.

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 7:00 am
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[sarcasm]But according to the GIS gurus it IS simple. Why, you no longer need all that expensive equipmet, just a good GIS program, a computer and a digital camera and you will be whoopin' out topos with 2cm+- accuracy in no time.
Then there are the guys that can take a Google Image and show your boundary lines with just incrdible accuracy and they really don't even need a copy of your deed!!
With GIS and GPS hand held units, Surveyors are a thing of the past. Better get on the bandwagon before it's troo late and all this technology leaves you behind!!![/sarcasm]

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 9:43 am
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[sarcasm]Its digital. It has to be right![/sarcasm]

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 9:48 am
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It's like you were standing in the front of the office listening to a traffic engineer I know that used to work with the local DOT!!!

I've got at least 7 other P.E. "survey experts" in the room most of the time using the words "In college I...", or the ever present, "back in the day, when I was surveyin' (likely as a rodman)", or something very similar. Like my 30 plus years, and my license is just "crew chief" time to them since they're P.E.'s and already know everything they "need" about surveying.

Priceless.......

 
Posted : April 4, 2014 8:28 am
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I always tell them I dont practice engineering so dont practice survey law.

 
Posted : April 4, 2014 9:20 am