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Hello,

Can someone please tell me the definition of a subtending line as it applies to this plat?

Have researched diligently but not finding, could be looking in the wrong places....any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Paul

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Posted : April 13, 2016 4:17 pm
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The term "subtended" is generally used to describe a long chord bearing and distance; subtense to the curve.

In the case of the plat, I'm betting the actual boundary line could be a curve, and the bearing and distances shown are chords for those arcs; or at least bearings and distances to points on the curve (or curves). And I'm sure other objects can be subtended, not just curves, but possibly offsets, etc.

The more I look at the plat, the more I think it may just be describing an offset of sorts. Possible the meander is an irregular line and the "subtended" bearing and distance is merely between points where the n-s property lines intersect an irregular (and possibly difficult to mathematically describe) meander line.


 
Posted : April 13, 2016 4:23 pm
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Being adjacent to a major river, it seems likely the boundary is riparian. When the land was earlier surveyed they meandered the river to have a description but that is not the northerly line of the parcels. The plat in question in effect found a then-current meander with shorter legs that follow the riparian boundary closer.

(My guess, not an LS)


 
Posted : April 13, 2016 4:29 pm
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Thank you Gentlemen, I was thinking along the same lines as you...I'm also guessing this might be a common knowledge application and was hoping someone who knows this area might reply.In any event will keep working on it and keep you posted. Thanks Again...


 
Posted : April 13, 2016 4:41 pm
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My vote is along the same lines as Paden's comments.


 
Posted : April 13, 2016 5:35 pm

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One definition for subtended is to be submerged, the north line is now under water, therefore has been subtended.


 
Posted : April 13, 2016 7:08 pm
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MightyMoe, post: 367144, member: 700 wrote: One definition for subtended is to be submerged, the north line is now under water, therefore has been subtended.

If a lobstah boat is headed northwesterly towards the north line at 15 knots while a train is traveling southeasterly at 60 mph on tracks with a friction coefficient of .o4 slugs, what is the resulting vector and how long would it take a passenger on the train to fall asleep if the density of the water changed proportionately to the salt content


 
Posted : April 13, 2016 8:06 pm
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I also agree with Paden's conclusion.


 
Posted : April 13, 2016 8:07 pm
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paden cash, post: 367113, member: 20 wrote: The term "subtended" is generally used to describe a long chord bearing and distance; subtense to the curve.

In the case of the plat, I'm betting the actual boundary line could be a curve, and the bearing and distances shown are chords for those arcs; or at least bearings and distances to points on the curve (or curves). And I'm sure other objects can be subtended, not just curves, but possibly offsets, etc.

The more I look at the plat, the more I think it may just be describing an offset of sorts. Possible the meander is an irregular line and the "subtended" bearing and distance is merely between points where the n-s property lines intersect an irregular (and possibly difficult to mathematically describe) meander line.

Hello Paden,

Thanks for taking the time....I recently attended the Arizona Professional Land Surveyors annual conference where I asked about this and the answer was the same. No one had any idea of what that surveyors intention was. I asked Jeff Lucas who was presenting and is answer was a flat no as well.

A visiting surveyor from Wisconsin had showed me that plat, I called a friend at the BLM, kept searching....in any event, Thanks Again, hound


 
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