Should I pull his corners?

I think I'd probably leave them, and note "found [whatever] tagged [other LS number], no record." He's beyond the reach of the Board at this point, so you're not going to get him in trouble for failing to file.

Would any of those monuments have been used by anyone other than the client over the years? If not, they mean nothing, so pull them without further concern. If they have , or may have been accepted by others as meaning something, that is a completely different story.

“and I hit his corners well within acceptable tolerances.”

If that’s the case why go through the extra effort? Note them like Jim said.

Radar, yer jest a young ‘un ain’t you? 😉

Have a great week! B-)

> Would any of those monuments have been used by anyone other than the client over the years?

Other surveyors or not, don't you think they would be common corners to other properties? I say they stay. They are property corners set by a licensed surveyor . And you're accepting them (I presume) Who cares that the property didn't finish getting subdivided?

> Radar, yer jest a young ‘un ain’t you? 😉
55 AND GETTING YOUNGER EVERY DAY....:snarky:

> Have a great week! B-)

I AM ON IT!!:-D

I would never disturb or pull an existing monument that is stable and would last as long as the one to replace it.

It would be ok to upgrade to a better type of monument at any location if the client ask.

The monuments that will never be of record need to be removed.

Recently I surveyed a mess a few miles away from my house caused by erroneous monuments whose purpose were abandoned and not ever put on record. The confusion proved costly for everyone involved.

I'd ....

set your corner right next to his. Then we can all complain about the pin cushions next year. 🙂

> The monuments that will never be of record need to be removed.

They'll be of record as soon as Radar files his map.

i agree, keep the corners, reference the other surveyor
call it honoring a project he could not complete for reasons beyond his control

> Diligence; keep looking even though you're right.

That's a dougie casement quote, feel free to use it, if you like....B-)

Edit-I reread my OP and I wasn't clear on my intent; I intend to honor his corners. I just wanted to see if someone would tell me to pull them and whyo.O

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER! TELL HIM WHAT HE'S WON JOHNNY!!

> I personally don't think it would make any difference, either way. He was a good surveyor and I hit his corners well within acceptable tolerances.

I have no idea what "acceptable tolerances" means in Washington, but assuming that the problem isn't with the positions of the monuments but the lack of a record of their placement, I'd consider the nature of the monuments themselves. If they aren't as good as you'd install, I'd replace them with your own. If they are better than you'd set, I'd leave them.

Why would Radar show the locations where he pulled monuments?

"But I was so much older then...

...I'm younger than that now."

As a gravelly voiced wise man once said.
O.K., I'm not all that sold on the "wise" part, but that boy sure could turn a phrase.

Don

If You Have To File A Record On The Exterior...

...it should be per your corners.

If he is outside your survey. Take his caps off, pound them down out of sight, replace his caps and set your own.

If he is inside your survey, it may be better to honor it. You have a much greater burden to hold beond his pins.

You are responsible for your record survey.

Is someone has reason to locate the prior corners they still can.

Paul in PA

If You Have To File A Record On The Exterior...

> If he is outside your survey. Take his caps off, pound them down out of sight, replace his caps and set your own.
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> If someone has reason to locate the prior corners they still can.

I think that the premise was that the monuments placed by the deceased surveyor were not of record and presumably that means that Mssr. Casement has examined the records to see whether any other surveyor has filed a map or plan that showed the dead surveyor's markers.

The other premise of Mssr. Casement's situation was that he considers the monuments placed by the dead surveyor to mark the corners "within acceptable tolerances" in Washington and so he doesn't feel obliged to remove them simply because they weren't set sufficiently accurately.

So, what is left if Washington standards of practice don't preclude him from noting in the record of his work that he found certain monuments placed by the dead surveyor to correctly marking the corners in question? I think it's just the actual markers themselves, their permanence and stability. If they aren't very good, it would be a disservice not to remove them and substitute substantial, permanent markers as needed.

If You Have To File A Record On The Exterior...

> If they aren't very good, it would be a disservice not to remove them and substitute substantial, permanent markers as needed.

In which case I'd change my note to "Found [two-bit rebar] tagged [other LS number], no record. Replaced with [super-duper monument] tagged [LS Radar]."

Why is pulling monuments even a discussion on this board? Notes on the map can explain any unknown pedigree to any corner or monument found in place.

"The corners that the client had him set are going to move so I will pull them and set mine where they want them; but should I pull his and set mine at the exterior points?"

I can definitely see pulling the interior monuments, as they're going to change, and will serve no future purpose (except to confuse).

I don't see why you would consider messing with the perimeter monuments that he set, though. Unless he blew it, and they're into the abutter's land, leave them alone.

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