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Set Concrete Bounds at ALL the corners

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(@foggyidea)
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This is a funny one; I do work for several engineers and one requested a proposal to set bounds at all the corners of this lot. the request came to them from a design/build architect firm, so this is fourth hand, if the initial request came from the homeowner.

So I pull up the deed, find the plan and here you go:

I email the engineer and say, "There is potential for 10 corners to be set, are you sure you want bounds at all of them?" Several days go by while they runit by the architect and I get, "Yes, Concrete Bounds at all corners."

Well obviously setting bounds 0.75' apart is pointless so I am going to set pins and caps at the points along the westerly line.

Sometime ago someone on here made fun of me for a comment I made about "How wide is your property line?" Here is a case where the legal property line makes 90 degree breaks in three places for 0.75' twice and 1.5' once. That property line, ON THE GROUND,

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 6:59 am
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I would set every corner leave a guard by each of them, either wire flag, lath or tpost.

If they wanted concrete they would be a rebar set in concrete and for those 0.75ft apart they would sit in the same block of concrete.

I once would get landscaping blocks and dig out a hole and place them and drill a hole to put rebar thru or use sackcrete in a post hole.

80lb monuments rooted in the ground are less likely to walk away.

😉

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 7:58 am
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If the correct property line does something weird, wouldn't that be a reason to put in long-lasting monuments that can be identified as to the surveyor who installed them, all of the same type? If a surveyor fifty years from now found a mix of concrete and rebar monuments along the westerly side, with some of the rebars missing and the caps on the remaining rebars gone, woudn't that suggest a pincushion situation rather than a deliberate jog in the correct line?

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 8:03 am
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Did you say that there was an architect involved??

You know, of course, that as soon as you get all 10 bounds set the architect will want an ANR moving the lot line because his addition is 0.01 feet too close to the lot line...

That's probably where those jogs came from in the first place!

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 8:17 am
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Where the corners are 9 inches apart, set one big bound with two crosses.

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 8:17 am
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When someone wants concrete bounds placed at ALL the corners, how do you handle those corners which you found and were previously placed by another surveyor?

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 9:34 am
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I will generally hold found monuments, and in this case I found three, and they all checked within a hundredth's of a foot.

Here is the line with the bump outs, yes, created so the house would conform to the setbacks at the time of construction.

There were bounds at each end of the line 🙂

The fence is right on the line, one fence post served well as a corner. I set a PK nail instead.

Had to "pincushion" on point. A concrete bound was called for but nothing was there, I set a pin and cap a half foot away form an iron pin that was undocumented.
The pipe was way to new for me to accept when all the other bounds checked so well.

I should have captured a picture of the view, on a clear day you can see Nantucket!

Dtp

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 10:55 am
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Now that I see a fence, disturbing what is there to mix concrete in a hole with or without PVC mold is out of the question.

:good:

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 1:40 pm
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A great thread, thanks.

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 2:23 pm
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> I should have captured a picture of the view, on a clear day you can see Nantucket!
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> Dtp

Isn't there a poem or limerick that goes something like that?:-P

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 4:03 pm
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Yes. I believe there is a lovely tale involving a young lady from Nantucket. Or was it a young man?

 
Posted : August 19, 2014 4:13 pm