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MightyMoe

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I need to "breakdown" the SE4 of S27 and the SW4 of S26. The parcel in question straddles the two sections with 40's east and west of the line. This country is lightly developed with two "subdivisions" and some metes descriptions that look like they intend to follow sectional lines but never call any out. All exterior corners in both sections are monumented. Very few of those are at found original stones.?ÿ

Find the E1/16th on south line of 27, old iron pipe, 15' east of the prorate. Find the SE1/16th twice, an iron pipe with an aluminum cap inside, and across the county road a subdivision corner being a rebar. Neither corner calls for SE1/16th and they are shifted from each other by 13' north-south. Find the S1/16th on the section line 4' from a prorate. The other corners for the parcel are in. The subdivision rebar was created when the owner owned on both sides of the line so I'm not using it. The aluminum cap in the pipe was a corner all the way back to the patents, I'm going with it and it's also within 2' of my prorate which is remarkable.

Typical day in the PLSS, reject all interior prorated positions, hold found monuments.?ÿ

And no, I will not show the math positions. Those can be figured out from the plat, if anyone is so inclined.?ÿ

Posted : October 21, 2020 1:41 pm

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Posted : October 21, 2020 2:55 pm

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No reason to show the math solution, but what irks me is when the only information on a survey is "found rebar ,1/16th corner". Unless the found rebar exactly matches the math solution this is an incomplete plat. It is not the 1/16th corner because you say so. You need to communicate your reasoms for coming to that conclusion, or it is close to worthless.

Edit: This rant wasn't directed at you MightyMoe.

Posted : October 21, 2020 3:47 pm

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Out of curiosity, what is the pertinent recordation statute regarding found 1/16th corners?

Posted : October 21, 2020 4:03 pm

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In FL when you survey a portion of a section (no matter how small) you have to show all 8 section corners. ?????ÿ

Posted : October 21, 2020 4:05 pm

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only original corners are required, but I will file on them anyway.?ÿ

Posted : October 21, 2020 4:13 pm

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Show? or monument?

Why show non-controlling section corners?

Posted : October 21, 2020 4:15 pm

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That sounds like some closeted bureaucrat's wetdream.?ÿ What a bunch of bison defecatory material.?ÿ Absolutely no possible good reason for this.

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BTW, there are nine corners to a section.?ÿ Four controlling corners would be the normal extreme need but frequently no more than two are required to do the job.?ÿ Of course, one can get into working in multiple sections to simply reset corners in the subject section, so there could be more than nine cited in some cases.

Posted : October 21, 2020 4:43 pm

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show, "Why show non-controlling section corners?" Because the Board says so. (or used too) ?????ÿ

Posted : October 21, 2020 5:42 pm

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Center of sections don't count in Fl. Rarely, if ever, were cs's set by original surveyors. ?????ÿ

Posted : October 21, 2020 5:50 pm

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We are expected to report them the same as if they were.?ÿ Either find one or set one before claiming you know the limits of a quarter section.

I happen to agree with Florida's view, but the powers that be do not.

Posted : October 21, 2020 6:27 pm

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Do you have a link to the regulation? That sounds asinine.?ÿ

Posted : October 21, 2020 7:40 pm

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It WAS in FL. administrative code 5J-17.051- 052 Standards of Practice ?? General Survey, Map, and Report Content Requirements. However is is not in the latest version published. Apparently it was removed, thankfully. I do and don't agree with what it used to be. It put surveyors in an awkward position with respect to "lot" surveys. ?????ÿ

Posted : October 22, 2020 5:29 am

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I think I get it.

The entire section is shown with record found monuments plotted, you aren't required to resurvey it just to note it on the map.

I would suppose corners without a record would be noted as no record found or something.?ÿ

Then they got rid of the requirement.

Posted : October 22, 2020 8:12 am

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Thank you!

Posted : October 22, 2020 8:41 am