Here is a section 16 subdivided by the state and sold private.
Sorry for it being upside down, that's how it came from the county.
OK, the PLSS and proportioning from 8 corners is bad enough. Note there is no indication of corner markers or what if anything was set. You have a bunch of old fences and roads, that's it. Gotta Love It!
LRDay, post: 388926, member: 571 wrote: Here is a section 16 subdivided by the state and sold private.
Sorry for it being upside down, that's how it came from the county.
OK, the PLSS and proportioning from 8 corners is bad enough. Note there is no indication of corner markers or what if anything was set. You have a bunch of old fences and roads, that's it. Gotta Love It!
Can't find the aerial photographs from 1899? 😉 ....and three of the section corners state "cor in place". Look like a slam-dunk...
Seriously, it actually looks like someone chained a topo and whipped it up on the drafting board (with acreages, of course). Good luck, looks like an "interesting" one for sure.
3 "cor in place"
Quitcher bitchin!
paden cash, post: 388928, member: 20 wrote: Can't find the aerial photographs from 1899? 😉 ....and three of the section corners state "cor in place". Look like a slam-dunk...
Seriously, it actually looks like someone chained a topo and whipped it up on the drafting board (with acreages, of course). Good luck, looks like an "interesting" one for sure.
The corners that were in place then ARE NOT the corners that are in place now but what the heck!
The east section line road with a Cor in the middle of the road at each section corner has about a 30 foot offset at the 1/4 Cor point (not in place then or now). But what does that detail matter?
LRDay, post: 388939, member: 571 wrote: The corners that were in place then ARE NOT the corners that are in place now but what the heck!
The east section line road with a Cor in the middle of the road at each section corner has about a 30 foot offset at the 1/4 Cor point (not in place then or now). But what does that detail matter?
Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. I guess you just roll up your sleeves and see what's out there...
looks like fun,,,,,
1899
Plat that is basically a sketch
What could go wrong with that?
MightyMoe, post: 388972, member: 700 wrote: looks like fun,,,,,
1899
Plat that is basically a sketch
What could go wrong with that?
Still kinda looks like that, too.
The town directly north, Ephraim, UT, was settled by Mormon pioneers and many immigrants from northern Europe in the 1850's thru the 1870's much before the original PLSS survey. I'm sure this Section was one of the first areas to be farmed and pastured near the city. So it was probably occupied (squatted on) well before statehood in 1896 going back to the 1850's. So Paden's idea that it was a chaining topo survey of existing conditions is probably not far off. So the only and best evidence is the occupation and the occupation from the oldest and original lines. If you don't accept that then you would have to consider it all lost.
So that's what I'm going to do, hold some of the oldest fence lines, call it original and have a back up that the boundaries have long been settled by acquiescence, which in Utah is relatively easy to prove and absolutely necessary to work messes like this out.
It's sort of an uncomfortable space though, not having any survey monuments to hang your hat on. Makes you a "boundary" fence line surveyor. From the picture Paden posted you can see the original pattern for sure. Not sure where Paden got the section breakdown from but you can see its way off as the section line goes down the road on the east boundary. The phone app surveyors really going to mess up here.
One thing you don't need to worry about is new and improved section breakdowns. This section doesn't have any aliquot parts to "resurvey" over and over again. No C 1/4 to pin cushion every survey.
LRDay, post: 388993, member: 571 wrote: ..It's sort of an uncomfortable space though, not having any survey monuments to hang your hat on...
In my experience I'm thinking there is one tract..smack dab in the middle that some yahoo pinned 15 years ago. You could probably get everything to fit pretty well by ignoring his pins....