I still have a land line at my house, mostly for elderly family members.
The main annoying thing about having it is all the credit card, fishing, scam calls. Usually I can screen but the IRS scam calls will actually sometimes leave messages that I end up having to begin to listen to before deleting them. It's wild stuff like I'm going to be arrested soon, FEDERAL MARSHALLS are on their way........
So I'm very happy to see that they arrested some IRS scammers, probably the tip of the iceberg, but still, maybe it will help.
I'm even getting some on the business phones now,,,,,,,,,,,
Bet there are way more than the 5 who were arrestedB-)
Shoot those 5 and word will spread....
Rankin_File, post: 373798, member: 101 wrote: Shoot those 5 and word will spread....
scamming the elderly,,,,,,,,
very low
Rankin_File, post: 373798, member: 101 wrote: Shoot those 5 and word will spread....
Back in the day didn't Al Chace say that the quick solution to prevent a recurrence of the 2007-2008 economic crisis was half a dozen investment bankers swinging from lampposts in lower Manhattan 😀
I get this crap on my cell phone even though it's listed on the Do Not Call list. Usually it's a robot call and if you stay on the line, the call gets transfered to a live human being. I then yell "This fÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ number is a ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ do not ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ call number. If you ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ don't want to ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ hear this ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ language, don't ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ call again..." They hang up real fast. Sometimes they are being "recorded for training purpose." Good. They can listen to me again.
I mean come on, what part of the Do Not Call list don't they understand?
My elderly Mother-in Law gets these calls and even though we reassure her, she is scared to death many times by these jerks. I've got a nice sharp brush axe ready if I ever catch one of them...
Rankin_File, post: 373798, member: 101 wrote: Shoot those 5 and word will spread....
Shooting is Way, Way too good. Prolonged torture of the highest caliber would be a mere start...
Beer Legs, post: 373802, member: 33 wrote: I get this crap on my cell phone even though it's listed on the Do Not Call list. Usually it's a robot call and if you stay on the line, the call gets transfered to a live human being. I then yell "This fÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ number is a ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ do not ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ call number. If you ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ don't want to ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ hear this ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ language, don't ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ call again..." They hang up real fast. Sometimes they are being "recorded for training purpose." Good. They can listen to me again.
I mean come on, what part of the Do Not Call list don't they understand?
They understand the DNC list very well I"m sure. They just don't give a flying (you know what) since many times these days, these calls come from overseas and can't be traced due to being made over the internet (which also allows these "wonderful" folks to change numbers as often as they like.
You have half a second to answer me after I say hello. If it takes you longer, I assume you are a robo caller and I hang up on you. If you are a person, you will probably call me back. Robots usually take a second or two before they start or, in some cases once the robot gets a human to answer, they will switch you to a live operator which also takes a second. Any delay in answering my hello tells me that you are not someone I need to waste time on.
Once in a while I get duped into picking up one these calls at home. I either just tell them to hold on and set the phone down and walk away or tell them I'm not home. If I'm bored I'll go into my Alzheimer's character and have a little fun seeing how frustrated I can make them.
There must be a special place in hell for people that scam the elderly.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
I sometimes stay on the line long enough to get a human just to ensure that they have to pay for the call - at least if that old urban legend is true.
I rarely answer blocked calls and those with suspicious caller IDs.
When I do answer a blocked call, I say hello rather softly and wait until somebody speaks or not.
That usually does not get heard by the bots and after nothing but silence on the other end I hang up.
Beer Legs, post: 373802, member: 33 wrote: I get this crap on my cell phone even though it's listed on the Do Not Call list. Usually it's a robot call and if you stay on the line, the call gets transfered to a live human being. I then yell "This fÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ number is a ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ do not ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ call number. If you ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ don't want to ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ hear this ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ language, don't ÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑÌÑ call again..." They hang up real fast. Sometimes they are being "recorded for training purpose." Good. They can listen to me again.
I mean come on, what part of the Do Not Call list don't they understand?
FYI,
It is also a federal offense to use the language you purport to have used on a telephone. The penalty for which can be much harsher than the $11,000 per call maximum for calling people on the Do Not Call List. You might consider this the next time you have to deal with one of those idiots.
SJ
Stephen Johnson, post: 373883, member: 53 wrote: FYI,
It is also a federal offense to use the language you purport to have used on a telephone. The penalty for which can be much harsher than the $11,000 per call maximum for calling people on the Do Not Call List. You might consider this the next time you have to deal with one of those idiots.
SJ
Well Steven, I'm really not too worried about it. I highly doubt that some scam artist is going to turn me in to the feds because they got an earful while trying to scam me and the fact that they're ignoring the do not call list. Really. I mean they might be stupid but I don't think they're that dumb to contact the feds and tell them all about their illegal activities. They'd probably end up paying $11,000 per incident and something tells me my number isnt the only do not call number that they ignored.
Received an envelope in the mail the other day with large print reading: PAYMENT ENCLOSED.
It was from some address in North Carolina. Nobody in North Carolina owes me money. I almost trashed it. But, decided to open it for the heck of it. IT WAS REAL MONEY!!! A client working in the oil fields/pipelines in North Dakota had Wells Fargo send me what he owed me.
Stephen Johnson, post: 373883, member: 53 wrote: FYI,
It is also a federal offense to use the language you purport to have used on a telephone. The penalty for which can be much harsher than the $11,000 per call maximum for calling people on the Do Not Call List. You might consider this the next time you have to deal with one of those idiots.
SJ
Really?? You are saying it's a federal offense to swear on the phone?? that sounds like an urban myth to me.
Profanity, in general:
Are there laws against profanity?
The answer is "yes," but most address a person's actions along with the profanity rather than merely the language itself. The bottom line is profanity laws differ by state; what's acceptable in one state may land you in jail in another.
History
In the United States, the legalities of profanity trace their roots to the first amendment to the Constitution, which guarantees free speech. However, this liberty is not intended to incite citizens to roam the streets shouting obscenities. Its intention was to allow uncensored speaking at "peaceful" gatherings and in the media.
In early America, laws banning profanity were based on religion. Back then, serious infractions involved breaking the biblical commandment to honor God's name and laws against profanity often banned using God's name "in vain."
In 1775, General George Washington banned cursing among his troups and required church attendance. Demands like this prompted Judge Zephaniah Swift, in 1796, to declare the government unable to punish a person on religious violation alone, that person must be disturbing the peace as well.
Features
Most criminal laws continue to take the stance that profanity alone isn't illegal, but profanity leading to (or appearing to lead to) disorderly conduct is illegal.
Types
Every state has laws against obscene language. In nine U.S. states, it is illegal to use profanity in public or on the telephone, as it is intimidating and threatening.
Though profanity convictions are rare, profanity can have unpleasant consequences. People charged with disorderly conduct often find their language introduced as evidence against them.
Effects
Acceptance of profanity evolves over time. What was once a bad word may now be common language. However, cursing is still not considered socially acceptable. ABC's John Stossel reports 48% of Americans are still offended by profanity
Psychiatrists say profanity is a prelude to aggressive behavior. Schools still ban certain words. Children who curse, even when the habit is not stifled by their parents, come to realize the language is socially unacceptable and will bring them trouble.
Considerations
Some of the most notorious anti-profanity laws are established by the Federal Communications Commission and relate to radio and television broadcasts. The FCC deems language obscene if it incites "lustful thoughts" in the average person, describes illegal sexual acts, or as a whole lacks "...literary, artistic
Wow, have you looked at the comments section for any online magazine or newspaper?
The 'Profanity Police' are going to have to put it in overdrive.
M
it seems like 9 states have leftover laws about profanity on the phone. Hardly anything ANYONE would ever be worried about. SHeeesh. Probably more have laws about where to tie up your horses.
wait... I hope "sheesh" isn't too strong of a word! I apologize I have offended anyone.
Andy J, post: 374047, member: 44 wrote: it seems like 9 states have leftover laws about profanity on the phone. Hardly anything ANYONE would ever be worried about. SHeeesh. Probably more have laws about where to tie up your horses.
Actually, I was referencing a FEDERAL law/regulation that is under the jurisdiction of the FCC. I haven't checked on any state laws about this.