A couple weeks ago ( the day I was preparing to go on vacation) I received a call (Voice mail) from Susie ( friend of Mrs. File), asking if I'd give her an estimate on splitting an existing undeveloped 14 ac. tract. I responded that I'd be interested in getting back to her when I returned from vacation and the cost could vary greatly based on the purpose of the split and the history of the tract in question - using an exemption ( gift or sale to family member, create agricultural tract, Boundary line adjustment, mortgage security, utility site) to the subdivision and Platting regs or having to do a subdivision. She was ok with that. So I do my trip to the Midwest with Mrs. File & return - last night Susie calls again- after some phone tag - she says she needs to know what the difference is between doing "A Partition" and having to do a subdivision.
It seems that an out-of-state surveyor friend was visiting with the client and suggested he do "a Partition" instead of going through the subdivision process....
so I re-explained the Montana code.... if you want to create a tract here- it has to meet the exemption criteria or you subdivide....
[sarcasm]Anyway, thanks for the worthless advice whoever you were ..... [/sarcasm]:rolleyes:
I'm sure her father has probably passed away by now, but I had a similar "Susie Realtor" a few years ago...and her father was a retired surveyor. I remember her relaying his kindly advice to me a few times.
The trouble was he came from a time when you charged $20 an hour for a crew...he was always full of critique, but as far as I can remember he never helped her out by surveying anything.
With help like that floating around, how can we go wrong?
"Partition" is an Oregonian word meaning "3 lots or less". A similar phrase in Washingtonian is "short plat". So I think Susie's client has had an Oregonian visitation. I swear, I haven't been in Montana lately.
No such thing, exempt or subdivision.
Here everything is a subdivision.
We had 2 parcels that backed up to each other and there was a small triangular jog on the rear line. So he wanted to just hack it off and transfer it to the rear lot for free just so it was basically a straight line across.
Mind you, this triangular piece to be transfered was a whopping 4 square feet....
City said needed a full subdivision.....
Rich., post: 380851, member: 10450 wrote: Here everything is a subdivision.
We had 2 parcels that backed up to each other and there was a small triangular jog on the rear line. So he wanted to just hack it off and transfer it to the rear lot for free just so it was basically a straight line across.
Mind you, this triangular piece to be transfered was a whopping 4 square feet....
City said needed a full subdivision.....
That's when you tell your client to just tell the neighbor it's his and build your fence or do any improvements as though it were straight. It costs more to right a new legal description than that little piece of dirt is worth. Verbal boundary line agreement and actions that show acquiescence....whatever that's called. Who cares if the city recognizes it?
Is this parcel in ag?
Most places around here will do a "minor subdivision", which doesn't require the drawn-out process.
Subdivisions are rare around here. That's for the serious, get-it-all-together-at-one-time, developer. Everything else is one tract at a time.
Holy Cow, post: 380871, member: 50 wrote: Subdivisions are rare around here. That's for the serious, get-it-all-together-at-one-time, developer. Everything else is one tract at a time.
Y`all must have way fewer former Californians than we do...
We took care of that problem years ago by lengthening the hunting season to year round and removing both the daily bag limit and possession limit. We found most of them were too scrawny and too stringy to be worth eating, so we treat them like skeet.
On a side note, Rankin. You may have missed my post the other day about a fellow who spent his teen and early married years in my neighborhood (between about 1870 and 1900, though) and then, for some silly reason, packed up and moved to Kalispell for the remainder of his life. He's buried in Conrad Memorial Cemetery there. Surname was Covert. Born in West Virginia, spent time in Indiana and Kansas, them became a permanent resident of Montana.
MightyMoe, post: 380861, member: 700 wrote: Is this parcel in ag?
It's bare ground, except for knapweed. One side is hwy frontage. classified as commercial rural currently.