We recovered a section corner leaning 0.5' S. according to the latest CCR. New ties from the reference points were noted on the same CCR. We will be using the section corner, and another one on the same line, to close our traverse out. Should we reset the section corner to its former position, using tie distances and bearings from the former CCR?
This is a matter of evidence. If it's a disturbed/hit with equipment monument, rehab it.
If it was set this way deliberately, leave it alone.
My opinion is that lazy crews never worry about it. Just shoot the top.
One step up from that is shoot the vertical part, basicly an estimated location, not very repeatable.
Many of my old field books have a note: fd 1/2" rebar, in rock pile. Top is bent south. Pulled, straightened, reset flush, and shot top.?ÿ
This makes it so that those who come after you, have only one place to shoot it. And, it should be the same as yours.
Shooting the top of a whacked monument is disingenuous.
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Listen to Nate
Nate is spot on.
I might add, please make a public record of your findings and procedure.
Field Notes! don't stuff it in your data collector and depend on your memory to explain it later.
PS: back in the day we reset/straightened many monuments. Many get hit and bent. Often for Original monuments, after spending significant effort getting a pipe pounded in between rock, we just hammered the top over to fit the proper location.
*we often failed to make proper explanations in our field books... maybe something quick like tied and base or straightened. not a detailed description as we should have, sorry about that
When you intentionally set a bar with a slope, make that very clear in your notes,
Why would you ever do that??ÿ Maybe if you hit a big rock with too much still sticking up?
Just make sure there is a permanent publicly accessible record documenting what you did.
@bill93?ÿ
That is a very common practice where slender section corner/quarter corner stones are encountered several inches below ground level but not deep enough to set a bar directly above the center of the stone.?ÿ The new bar is driven on as gentle of a slant as possible for a strong metal signature while leaving the tip directly above the center of the stone.?ÿ I have found numerous cases of two such bars being set, one on each side.?ÿ The center of the tiny gap between the side by side tips is directly above the center of the stone.?ÿ This is why it is vital to leave behind really good notes and file your survey.
I've seen up to eight bars surrounding a found stone.?ÿ Then some doofus comes along, finds one of the stabilizing bars and assumes that is the corner---------WRONG.?ÿ Good notes and proper research methods should eliminate such problems.
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I have found a cluster of 7-8 spikes under a stone.......
This sounds like good practice, provided there are publicly available records explaining what was done.?ÿ
Accessories are part of the monument. Reset using them and file a new corner record telling the story. Of course that assumes the prior surveyor wasn't a 'these are good enough to find it' guy...
I meant accessories earlier when I used reference points. That's what the guys call them. Using the word accessories is like relating the monument to a piece of clothing. Maybe the old-timers saw it that way too.
nate has good advice.
The best solution (perfect world) would be to research the corner, tie adjacent corners, and determine from record documents if it is at a ??true and correct position?? or not. If you choose the correct the position, note the position, before and after. (EX: found bent, leaning ?ÿ N30E, 0.45ft, removed, straightened and reset in hole)
at minimum: document the found condition and what you did. This is good advice for any survey field work.
and the laziest solution (but will never give you grief), is to leave it where you found it, and note the erroneous position on your survey.
accessory evidence is the physical markers in the field. Reference points are the data you Collect to tie the corner monument to the accessory evidence.