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(@joe_surveyor)
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Boy, Lehman Brothers must have had one hell of a legal bill...

 
Posted : August 16, 2011 1:54 pm
(@randy-hambright)
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Just my opinion, but I think billing out for a tool like GPS is just absurd.

My theory is to bill the same, but get a lot more work done and that equates to more profit.

Lets bill them for having a sharp machete instead of a dull one and see where that ends up.

 
Posted : August 16, 2011 5:09 pm
(@joe_surveyor)
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years ago when I was just a pup, I can remember the firm I worked far charging an extra "surcharge" if "special equipment" was used on a job. Back then these special items were things like GPS, CAD and electronic data collectors and they were just trying to recover some of their large investment.

 
Posted : August 16, 2011 5:28 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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When the State wants to charge my time to a funded account it only includes my salary, fringes, retirement and other direct costs of employing me.

We also charge travel expenses to various accounts.

Office, truck, paper, equipment, pencils, all that stuff is free-YIPPEE! 😉

 
Posted : August 16, 2011 6:14 pm
(@richard-davidson)
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You will need to have rate schedules if you want to work on large projects like GSA. Look for the phrase "contract price list" in this example

https://www.gsaadvantage.gov/ref_text/GS10F0105K/0HLDE9.24E9GA_GS-10F-0105K_ESCATALOGGS10F0105K4MAR10.PDF

 
Posted : August 17, 2011 3:21 am
(@paulplatano)
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A strange thing about the Arkansas deal was the association
was called to bail out an attorney/surveyor. After that incident,
two of the surveyors lost their license for practicing engineering.

 
Posted : August 17, 2011 7:21 am
(@gene-baker)
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"Your clients do not care how long something will take you to do. They only care about the results of your work."

You must live in a different world than I. Time is usually the number one consideration to my clients. Typical conversation:

Fat Daddy developer, “Do you realize that my “X” dollar project is on hold waiting for your “B”.

Where X = some unfathomable amount and B = survey, crew or stakes.

 
Posted : August 17, 2011 7:33 am
(@mark-mayer)
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> Your clients do not care how long something will take you to do....

Unless your client is a DOT or other public agency. Many times such clients insist on - are policy bound to - hourly with an agreed fee schedule and budget.

 
Posted : August 17, 2011 7:34 am
(@mmm184)
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That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much Richard.

 
Posted : August 17, 2011 9:33 am
(@sir-veysalot)
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Do you think a contractor bills the same hourly rate for a jackhammer as he does for a D10?

 
Posted : August 17, 2011 2:18 pm
(@richard-davidson)
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You are welcome.

 
Posted : August 17, 2011 5:56 pm
(@butch)
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> Just my opinion, but I think billing out for a tool like GPS is just absurd.
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> My theory is to bill the same, but get a lot more work done and that equates to more profit.

Sorry, IMO your theory is absurd. I would rather work less and charge more using those technological advancements; rather than having to do more work @ unadjusted rate to pay off the higher capital cost while still trying to see a "profit".

 
Posted : August 17, 2011 7:31 pm
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