Bird dog
> Beep - Verb. To use a magnetic detector to look for iron pipe, etc.
> Bug - To use a magnetic locator to search for an iron pipe.
We always used "bird dog". As for 11, it was "railroad".
I'm with Ed on this one, we always used railroad=11!!
Bird dog
use sweep here.
I have heard 11 as punk a few times
We use:
Punk = 11
Balls = 00
Sniff = search with a metal detector
> Boot - To raise the levels rod some number of inches so as to be visible to the instrument man, e.g. "Boot 6!" means "raise it 6 inches."
> Bullseye - Zero degrees of inclination.
> Dummy or dummy-end - The base or zero end of a tape or chain, as in "hold dummy at the face of the curb."
Boot: I've used the term "boot" many times, but what is this "inches" thing you speak of?
Bullseye: I never heard of it as zero degrees of incline...?
We called our steel tape a "chain" of course based on the old gunter "chains" that was an actual chain with links. Our (steel tape) chains had foot-marks and you read the hundredths on the zero-end. We called the dummy-end as the rear-chainman end that held the foot-mark, and the guy who read the hundredths worked the "smart end".
We used the term "ray and spray" when we would do a topography survey including tons of angles and distances.
now don't get me started on hand-signals...;-)
> In my neck of the woods "eleven" is "Punk". How about yours?
Where I worked we never used terms like punk, railroad, tracks, dinky, etc., for numbers
Cut 0.11' was "cut zero point one one" or we used hand signals.
The only slang ever used for number was "balls" for zero zero, until we started getting females on field parties or if we were working in town.
I have always believed that the numbers were too important to use something that might introduce a chance of error.
Been doing this for 44 years and never even "heard" those slang terms until today.
> Cut 0.11' was "cut zero point one one"
Same here. Or, if "eleven" was used, it was pronounced EL-u-ven, with a heavy accent on the EL.
> Been doing this for 44 years and never even "heard" those slang terms until today.
Same here. Except I've only been doing it for 41 years. And I have heard "railroad tracks" but never used it.
> Eleven is "Yo!" at the craps tables.
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> As in ee-YO-leven.
That's the way I was trained in the late '70s. I still use it on occasion, though radios have mostly eliminated the need.
The problem now though is that most work is coded string lines ...such as ELB1 start, then RDS1 start, then RCD1 start...you get the idea, pretty soon you have so many lines going, and alot of the codes sound the same, especially along the side of an interstate highway. I had an instrumentman that couldn't hear well, as most of us older guys over the years have found out. So when we would get our info back to the office and download it for an office guy, it was imperative that we held their hand, and took a look at the line work. Technology is great, but some of the stuff really does increase the errors between field and office. I know for sure the new button pushers haven't got a clue what to look for...just hold a button for too long, and see what you get!!!
never heard of an alternative for eleven.
Proper radio usage:
alpha bravo charlie...quebec is kaybeck...zulu
one two three four five six seven eight NINER one-zero one-one one-two one-three, etc.
It must be a Georgia thing. I agree with Ed that 11 is "railroad" and 7 is "punk" or "punkin".
Dale Yawn
Savannah, Ga.
Who knew there were so many variances?
Back in the "hollerin' days" around here "e-oh" was eleven and seven was seven.
"niner" was nine and five was five. Can't remember any other hollers, though.
I copy/paste this list from a quicky google search
Clever post Dave! Hadn't thought of that....
Punk Punk 20Punk to be more specific (or Punk Punk 20Punk if you do that european day/month/year thing instead of the month/day/year method we in the civilized world use), but the 20 is usually ignored to make calendar dates more interesting, and hey, we're all numbers guys.
Yup, punk, punk, punk day! Funny, I said to my husband tonight it was 11-11-11 and he said punk punk punk. He surveyed with me on the weekends, and worked as an I-man for a couple of years,(now he is a home improvement contractor) pretty smart one, that guy! 😉
> Surveying, like any profession, has its special terms and slang. Some are just humorous, some help distinguish similar sounds (e.g. eleven and seven), and some are just plain strange!
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> Balls - Slang for numeric .00, as in 4-balls (4.00)
> Beep - Verb. To use a magnetic detector to look for iron pipe, etc.
> Blood - To slowly raise the levels rod in order that the instrument man can read the foot markings.
> Boot - To raise the levels rod some number of inches so as to be visible to the instrument man, e.g. "Boot 6!" means "raise it 6 inches."
> Blue topping - In road or grading work the surveyor sets stakes and paints their tops blue to represent the required elevation. Graders then work to just cover the blue tops of the stakes.
> Box - Data collector.
> Bug - To use a magnetic locator to search for an iron pipe.
> Bullseye - Zero degrees of inclination.
> Burn - See shoot
> Burn one - Measure from the one foot mark on the tape rather than from the end of the tape in order to increase the accuracy of the measurement.
> Bust - Closure error, i.e. the amount by which the survey fails to perfectly close.
> Cap - A metal or plastic cover on the end of a rebar or pipe, typically stamped or printed with the surveyor's license number or other identifier.
> Cut line - To clear vegetation for a line of sight between two survey control points.
> Double nickel - Slang for .55, as in 6-double nickel (6.55)
> Dummy or dummy-end - The base or zero end of a tape or chain, as in "hold dummy at the face of the curb."
> Dump - Download data from the data collector.
> EDM - Electromagnetic Distance Measurement device, the instrument used by modern surveyors that replaces the use of measurement chains. It determines distance by measuring the time it takes for laser light to reflect off a prism on top of a rod at the target location.
> Ginney - A wooden dowel 6-9 inches in length with a sharpened end. Set in the ground to mark survey points.
> Glass - The EDM prism.
> Gun - Originally, a transit, but potentially any measurement instrument in use, e.g. theodolite, EDM, or Total Station.
> Hours - Degrees
> Hub and Tack - A 2" by 2" stake that is set in the ground and that contains a nail ("tack") that precisely marks the point being set.
> Jigger - Transit (Australia and New Zealand)
> Legs - Tripod
> Pogo - Prism pole
> Pole - Approximate unit of measure (about 0.1 foot) used for stake out, e.g. "Move a pole to the left and drive that hub in"
> Punk - See railroad.
> Railroad - Slang for eleven, as in 42-railroad (42.11)
> Rodman - The person holding the rod with the EDM prism. This person is the modern version of a chain carrier or chain man.
> Shoot - Measure distance with an EDM
> Spike - Usually a 60 penny nail used to mark survey points in hard ground.
> Stob - In the southeast U.S., a wooden stake or post, but in modern surveying, a piece of rebar used to mark a property boundary.
> Tie - To locate something with the transit or other measuring device.
> Top - Slang for eleven. See railroad.
> Trip - Slang for triple digits, as in trip5 means 555, and 43trip7 means 43.777
> Turn - The rodman is told to stay in place while the gun or level is moved to a new location.
> Wave - To slowly move the levels rod back and forth in order to confirm that a measurement was made when the rod was truly vertical.
> Zero - Zero degrees, minutes, and seconds. A perfect zero.
I recognize most of those, I have to add raise for red and rock it.
darn it, I missed all the fun silly names! I guess I didn't survey before radios and such technology. and now I don't talk to anyone but the dog during the day and she has no need for numbers, anyway!
We had radios, but I worked with a couple of old timers. I love hand signals, when hubby is plowing, I mean mowing the back 4, he always points to his watch to see what time it is, I can easily tell him with surveying hand signals!