So what happens if it ain't your wife? Does it matter if it's somebody else's wife?
Suppose the property line is "the center of the brook"?
If you plotted the location of that daily, as the water rose, fell, meandered or even changed locations, and superimposed them all for a period of time, the "property line" would indeed have some "width".
rfc, post: 398502, member: 8882 wrote: Suppose the property line is "the center of the brook"?
If you plotted the location of that daily, as the water rose, fell, meandered or even changed locations, and superimposed them all for a period of time, the "property line" would indeed have some "width".
Not really, it would just be moving. That said, one would have a hard time pinning the actual line down.......
rfc, post: 398502, member: 8882 wrote: Suppose the property line is "the center of the brook"?
If you plotted the location of that daily, as the water rose, fell, meandered or even changed locations, and superimposed them all for a period of time, the "property line" would indeed have some "width".
It's not so much a width as it is a nebulous location. It's still infinitely small in width. It's just has an unknown or changing location.
And width implies a gore or space between two independent property lines.
Holy Cow, post: 398494, member: 50 wrote: So what happens if it ain't your wife? Does it matter if it's somebody else's wife?
That would be adverse possession.
Holy Cow, post: 398494, member: 50 wrote: So what happens if it ain't your wife? Does it matter if it's somebody else's wife?
Dave Karoly, post: 398511, member: 94 wrote: That would be adverse possession.
Only if it's "open and notorious".
And for at least the minimum number of years for your State.
Only if it's "open and notorious".
Once notice is made, you could call it "hostile".
The architect is asking a valid question. Usually architects & builders often measure building dimensions - position of a house wall from the partition wall.
If the contractor does not have an inhouse surveyor who will layout the building gridlines then most often he has a foreman that would measure house positions based on what's available - walls, roads, curbs, that appear in the topography plan/construction plans.
So if a wall is 15cm thick and a foreman would base his measurements from the face of the wall, by the time he reaches the other retaining wall, he would be short by 15cm compared with his drawings.
Real world scenarios against those that sit in their office drawing o-width lines in their latest copy of autocad.
Oh, my.
This post explains a lot...
FrancisH, post: 398615, member: 10211 wrote: The architect is asking a valid question. Usually architects & builders often measure building dimensions - position of a house wall from the partition wall.
If the contractor does not have an inhouse surveyor who will layout the building gridlines then most often he has a foreman that would measure house positions based on what's available - walls, roads, curbs, that appear in the topography plan/construction plans.
So if a wall is 15cm thick and a foreman would base his measurements from the face of the wall, by the time he reaches the other retaining wall, he would be short by 15cm compared with his drawings.
Real world scenarios against those that sit in their office drawing o-width lines in their latest copy of autocad.
I agree, kinda. In your example, the map/plan/plat is deficient. Obviously every Wall has a width. The lot line runs down the middle or one side or another, but if the drawing shows a single line for both the lot line and the wall without a label to explain... you should expect screwups.
5 or 10 minutes drawing a few details would explain everything... not to say that anybody would read the map carefully 🙂
Doesn't the width of the property line depend upon the scale of the drawing?:drool:
Hmmmmm......
We have all staked a property line or two, and when staking what did you use? We typically pound lath down the line, center of the lath being the visible, physical, tangible line. While "lines" may have a width of 0, a "property line" must be able to be physically shown or no one would know where they were in reality. In the grand scheme of things and given the amount of error in a surveying, the width of property line is best described as a width of a lath, and God forbid you hit a rock a couple inches down.
Brian McEachern, post: 398804, member: 9299 wrote: We have all staked a property line or two, and when staking what did you use? We typically pound lath down the line, center of the lath being the visible, physical, tangible line. While "lines" may have a width of 0, a "property line" must be able to be physically shown or no one would know where they were in reality. In the grand scheme of things and given the amount of error in a surveying, the width of property line is best described as a width of a lath, and God forbid you hit a rock a couple inches down.
We had a survey once where we were setting a pipe where 4 properties came together. The neighbor came over and said that the pipe was encroaching onto his property, to which the party chief responded, yes, but only a quarter of it.
A Harris, post: 397776, member: 81 wrote: "A line has no width"
Tell that to your cad program.
ACD Surveyor, post: 398931, member: 494 wrote: Tell that to your cad program.
In Carlson, all my linewidths are set to "zero"
A battle of widths!
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"A line has no width"
Let's see... if something has 0 width.... can you see it?
How many angels can fit on the head of a pin?