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paden-cash · 2015-04-10T15:58:00Z

There are probably a dozen surveyors or more that hit the ground every morning in my county. We are all out trying our best to make a living and hopefully make a client happy at the same time. And I'd like to think the other eleven keep posterity as close to their heart as I do. While on one hand we really don't owe other surveyors anything at all, we owe every bit of our livelihood on the evidence and records left behind for the "next guy".And even though I am a fair and honest man, I still growl a little and the fur on my back bristles when I see a crew working in an area that I consider "my woods". Poachers, plain and simple. They will be there long enough to make a dollar or two and then leave the guts for someone else to clean up. It happens a lot, but what can you do?A good example is a stretch of highway east of here around the lake, most of it centered on the section line. Over the years the highway boys and the BLM have surveyed it to death. An unknown surveyor years ago set some good points on the section line where the RW intersects. Rather than try and get out in traffic and dig up a corner, these points are not only worth their weight in gold, they FIT everything that has been done out there for the last thirty years. AND a good number of descriptions have been prepared beginning "where the existing RW intersects the section line". Oh, every time the tax payers cough up enough to "improve" the road the highway boys come out and reset the section corners. They try, but their "new" corners never really fit the old stuff by a couple of tenths, more in some places. Anybody that has been around here any length of time knows the "new" corners are just posers. The REAL corners are at the RW line.And just the other day I was by there and saw a local crew working on apparently a new residential area. I saw little piles of asphalt debris and gobs of flo-pink pancakes at the section corners in the middle of the highway...and none of old "RW" corners had been uncovered. No doubt their work will fit the "resets", but won't fit much else.Now 0.15' doesn't bother me too much. Maybe it should, but it don't. The part that bothers me is when I look at copy of what those guys were working on and they will have reported "fnd. 1/2" rebar, 0.15' south" at existing corners abutting their survey. It's almost like things have turned 180...where the NEWER corner positions usurp the OLDER corner locations.I don't get as riled up as some of us here have with "outatowners" working in our area. I guess there are as free to swoop in and leave a pile of poop as the next guy. The real crime is the paper trail that is left for posterity. It blurs the lines that have been established and harmoniously existed for a good time. That leaves the "next guy" to scratch his head and wonder which is good. And it is a crime in my book to cast a shadow of doubt on historically accepted records and monuments that we've worked off of for years.Apparently Kent is experiencing someone poaching down there in his woods. And whether you agree with Kent or not, common report indicates it is in an area that one needs to pay attention while they are there. Sadly they probably will not.And I hope there are no Oklahoma surveyors that personally took Kent's jab at Okies as derogatory. I didn't. It wouldn't matter where the surveyors came from, they're still poachers. Kent just doesn't know the name of any other states to gripe about that border Texas...:pinch: My granddad (an Oklahoma native) use to say that all Okies were folks that just ran out of gas on their way to California. B-)

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One of the bigger sins is committed by a fellow finding a stone per numerous surveys of record. Everyone has always used the top/center of the stone.....well, until this guy comes along, sets a bar about six inches away at the side of the stone and then declares his bar to be the corner. What a maroon, as Bugs Bunny would say. Instant pin cushion. If he really wants to contribute to confusion in future decades he makes no mention of finding the stone and leaves the bar about six inches up above the top of stone.

Posted : April 10, 2015 8:18 pm

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Currently following that guy....even recording statutes can't fix stupid....

Posted : April 10, 2015 8:22 pm

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Didn't you know "it's not really a corner unless you can find it with a pin finder" ?

Silly bull....;-)

Posted : April 10, 2015 8:23 pm

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I have set pins under stones....

Posted : April 10, 2015 9:07 pm

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Yea, the recent oil boom took our locale from 16-18 survey companies to over 40, just wonder how many will leave now that the boom has ceased here?

Posted : April 11, 2015 8:14 am

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