I am totally frustrated with the StarCarlson performance. Converting the SurvCE RW5 to StarNet DAT is a mess. Everytme I perform conversion using the StarCarlson, it wil end up me manually purging out mess and manually entering command lines. It can't even recognize RW5 resection command.
Anybody with same experience? I don't know if there exists other convertion utilities.
Thank you.
For years I printed out the raw files and typed everything into the .dat file by hand.
I'm pretty satisfied with the converter now.
Could it be the file type you're trying to convert isn't the right type?
I bought the StarCarlson for SurvCE RW5 conversion into Starnet dat file. Coversion output practially provides only the SS data line. The resection routine is not supported.
As nicely organized in RW5, resection routine support is highly attainable from programming point of view as it is a straightforward text parsing routine.
Paying a piece of software that simply doesn't work is very dissappointing.
If the Move3 can do it, why not the StarNet?
I could never get Starnet Converter to work Carlson on a regular basis, it was a big pain in the arse . And they did not seem to much in a hurry to fix it.
It took me the whole day today just to achieve a clean and working dat file. 🙁
> I am totally frustrated with the StarCarlson performance. Converting the SurvCE RW5 to StarNet DAT is a mess. Everytme I perform conversion using the StarCarlson, it wil end up me manually purging out mess and manually entering command lines. It can't even recognize RW5 resection command.
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> Anybody with same experience? I don't know if there exists other convertion utilities.
StarSDR works pretty well. Do you have the option of outputing the data collector file in SDR format?
If so, I'd be glad to run it through StarSDR to verify that it will do the trick.
I'll try it. 🙂
Thank you for sharing Kent!
Even SurvNET (Carlson's own least squares software) doesn't handle resections. As a result, this has caused me to change how I do resections on projects that I know I'll be doing a least squares adjustment on.
In those instances, I basically estimate my station coordinates, create first resection point by direct backsight observation, the turn in remaining points. Then I use Align in Transformation to get the micro project oriented to the project coordinate system. This all seems to process well in SurvNET then.
It's curious to me. Even when I used Columbus (which I really like) they didn't handle resections either.
> Even SurvNET (Carlson's own least squares software) doesn't handle resections.
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> It's curious to me. Even when I used Columbus (which I really like) they didn't handle resections either.
Star*Net handles resections perfectly well. I use them quite a bit and they jump right out of the DC and into Star*Net.
I did two resections on the waterfront a few years back and then measured the distance between them.
Worked very well.
But what we did was just straight up angles to buildings and towers.
So, I'm not sure how a distance/angle combination might react in the processing.
> I am totally frustrated with the StarCarlson performance. Converting the SurvCE RW5 to StarNet DAT is a mess. Everytme I perform conversion using the StarCarlson, it wil end up me manually purging out mess and manually entering command lines. It can't even recognize RW5 resection command.
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> Anybody with same experience? I don't know if there exists other convertion utilities.
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> Thank you.
I use StarCarlson almost every day, and it is slick. I would say that the settings I use matter, meaning that it isn't fool proof. Large files where people have been less than perfect in their inputs can create issues, but that isn't Starnet's fault.
To be a bit more clear, SurvNET handles resections in a technical sense, but doesn't read the Resection records of a SurvCE RW5 file.
Columbus (several years ago) didn't handle resections in a technical sense.
I use the converter with no problems. Email me an rw5 at the address in my profile. I will see if the results are the same.
> To be a bit more clear, SurvNET handles resections in a technical sense, but doesn't read the Resection records of a SurvCE RW5 file.
So, in other words, Carlson's SurvNET can't read some records generated by Carlson SurvCE? Impressive.
I would be happy to help you with your problems with our RW5 to StarNET conversion utility. Please feel free to contact me. Let me know what your issues are.
Also, SurvNET should read and use the resection records in the SurvCE RW5 files. They show up as NOTE records but we read them and use them in the adjustment.
Dean Goodman
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You mean there's workaround that StarCarlson can cleanly recognize RW5 resection block?
I don't know if version is an issue. Mine is StarNet Pro v6.
Thanks for the reply Dean. I'll give it a try again.
We were in version 5 until recently. DOS and XP boxes would no longer hook to our network so we went with version 8. No rw5 issues now.
With version 5 and the older standalone converter we had issues with the backsight direct. Starnet pointed us to the offending line and we manually fixed it. The remaining problems were related to converter settings.
Bruce Carlson and Dean Goodman said it does at the last class I took. Are you sure you're not thinking of an older version?
I am actually quite impressed with SurvNet these days.