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field-dog
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How would you calc the following?

(1) Look at the small curve (R = 255.32', L = 44.07') to the west of lot 222. Would you assume the line from the P.C. to the radius point is radial (N 40°55'11" E), or would you turn 90°00'00" left from the P.T. using a B.S. bearing (forward tangent of the curve) of S 58°58'20" E?

(2) Look at large curve (R = 679.25', L = 485.88') to the west of lots 224 - 232. Does the tangent bearing of N 40°59'06" E indicate a non-radial curve? Would I simply use that bearing as a B.S. bearing and turn 90°00'00" left from the P.C. to set the radius point?

I haven't been able to close the legal description, and I think these two items are the reason.

Please see the attached files.

 
Posted : March 10, 2024 8:32 am
field-dog
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Here's the plat. I couldn't figure out how to attach it to my post.

 
Posted : March 10, 2024 8:37 am
jitterboogie
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Hmmm. I think that description is wrong, that's the central angle (delta) and not the tangent. Try that.

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Posted : March 10, 2024 12:39 pm
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@ jitterboogie

Be more specific please.

 
Posted : March 10, 2024 12:55 pm
Landbutcher464MHz
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I ran the bearings and distances just like they show on your map and everything closes using 90 degrees for setting the 30' radius point. The map is good so check your work.

 
Posted : March 10, 2024 1:32 pm

BStrand
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1.) Seems clear to me the curve is tangent to the south line of lot 222.

2.) Yeah, appears to be a non-tangent curve, so 90 from the tangent bearing etc.

 
Posted : March 10, 2024 1:39 pm
field-dog
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@ Landbutcher464MHz

What 30' radius point? Thanks for your help.

 
Posted : March 10, 2024 11:17 pm
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@ BStrand

What would be the purpose of using a non-tangent curve? Aren't curves designed to fit tangents? Thanks for your help.

 
Posted : March 10, 2024 11:28 pm
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What would be the purpose of using a non-tangent curve? Aren’t curves designed to fit tangents? Thanks for your help.

No no, non-tangent as in not tangent to the lines in and out of the curve. Different thing than the tangents to the PI.

 
Posted : March 10, 2024 11:58 pm
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I don't have time to do any calcs, but the curve appears to be tangent to the south line of the lot, the west lot line is not radial to the curve. The bearing to the radius should be N31-01-40E (off the top of my head) and the distance to the radius is shown for both sides of the street.

That is a really nice plat, hand lettering is classier than Autocat drawn plats.

From 1960 I wouldn't expect super accurate findings, it's all about monumentation 60+ years later.

 
Posted : March 10, 2024 11:59 pm

field-dog
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@ BStrand

Thanks for pointing that out.

 
Posted : March 11, 2024 1:28 am
GaryG
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Looks like a pretty tight plat !

 
Posted : March 11, 2024 1:49 am
Landbutcher464MHz
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This 30' radius curve is perfectly tangent to both lines. See attached. The data calcs out tight just like Gary G. said.

 
Posted : March 11, 2024 3:16 am
field-dog
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@ MightyMoe

That is a really nice plat, hand lettering is classier than Autocat drawn plats.

I agree. I'm keeping this plat as an example on how a plat should be drawn. The two calc problems I pointed out were a challenge for me. It was a good learning experience.

 
Posted : March 11, 2024 11:54 am
field-dog
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Thanks, Gary. You are too kind. So, it appears that line 312 - 311 is radial.

 
Posted : March 11, 2024 12:07 pm

field-dog
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@ BStrand

No no, non-tangent as in not tangent to the lines in and out of the curve. Different thing than the tangents to the PI.

Looking at GaryG's drawing, I'm a correct in saying that the tangent bearing of N 40°59'06" E is for the piece of 18.7' arc of lot 224?

 
Posted : March 11, 2024 12:13 pm
GaryG
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Correct, they give that bearing to set up the overall curve for the plat boundary.

I do see I have a fat finger bust in defining the radius of the next lot north. The intersection is correct, just messed up the radius when I built the figure.

NOTE: Replaced plat with corrected radius.

 
Posted : March 11, 2024 12:31 pm
BStrand
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Looking at GaryG’s drawing, I’m a correct in saying that the tangent
bearing of N 40°59’06” E is for the piece of 18.7′ arc of lot 224?

Yeah, and every other lot until the pin around the middle of lot 232.

 
Posted : March 11, 2024 1:16 pm
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I've never seen anything like that before. Is there something special about the curve that dictates that?

 
Posted : March 12, 2024 3:32 am
BStrand
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I’ve never seen anything like that before. Is there something special about the curve that dictates that?

The 679.25 radius and 485.88 length dimension by lot 227. Though when I add up the lot lengths between the pins I get a number that's about 5 feet different, so maybe I'm misreading a number somewhere.

 
Posted : March 12, 2024 6:34 am

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