don't forget that di-hydrogen monoxide stuff, nasty chemicals that is gonna end us all. My 7th grader daughter came to me last night after reading in a book that in the early 1900's whole families died of the flu. She couldn't understand that. So much for history classes teaching much around here.
paden cash, post: 392035, member: 20 wrote: I know. And don't get me started about academia...I quit HS in the 10th. grade because I couldn't stand their insolence.
There is a guy living in my neighborhood who quit school after the 7th grade if memory serves. Like so many people (even those who have completed much more school), he believes everything the "news" feeds him. Hasn't bothered to learn a new thing at all for many years now so it would seem.
Being on this forum, I see a HUGE (as in opposite) difference in your approach and attitude. No matter if one has completed the formal "education" or not, it's about what is learned along the way.
Time to stop typing for a moment before I go on a full fledged rant 😀
John, post: 392070, member: 791 wrote: ..Time to stop typing for a moment before I go on a full fledged rant 😀
I have no problem with those that seek education. Education is basically (in theory) a good thing. Education as the measure of one's mental abilities is ludicrous. I left school because I was bored....and was probably a handful in the behavior department. I really wasn't rebellious or rowdy, but I had a youthful sense of humor.
I had a math class that was held in the "Basic Electronics" classroom. This classroom had a workbench all along one wall with all sorts of gadgets...and a string of 110VAC receptacles...that were also wired to the classroom's overhead lights. Every time someone stuck a large paper capacitor's two leads into each hole in the plug in the wall (with the lights out) and waited for the instructor to come in and turn on the lights...the capacitor would of course blow up like an M-80...and they always came looking for me...;)
My theory of education is that it must be bridled with an equal amount of ambition or drive. You could hire a drop-out to pump gas at the corner gas station. And if that dropout has the proper ambition; in twenty years he could be the CEO of the oil company. You could also hire a PhD to pump gas at the same station...and if that PhD had no ambition or drive, they would still be there pumping gas twenty years later...(a thinly veiled analogy of the all the tenured professors that stay in the very same place until they die).
For some reason the changed direction of this thread is reminding me of something David Dunning wrote not all that long ago:
"An ignorant mind is precisely not a spotless, empty vessel, but one thatÛªs filled with the clutter of irrelevant or misleading life experiences, theories, facts, intuitions, strategies, algorithms, heuristics, metaphors, and hunches that regrettably have the look and feel of useful and accurate knowledge."
My experience is that the formally educated tend to be less ignorant. Of course, "the contrary may be shown"
My dad used to tell the story of a young guy who came into the plant where he worked and asked if there were any jobs available.
My dad told him that a janitorial position was open and he could start right away by sweeping the floors.
The would-be worker said, "But I'm a college graduate!"
My dad said, "You want me to show you how?"
clearcut, post: 392111, member: 297 wrote: For some reason the changed direction of this thread is reminding me of something David Dunning wrote not all that long ago:
"An ignorant mind is precisely not a spotless, empty vessel, but one thatÛªs filled with the clutter of irrelevant or misleading life experiences, theories, facts, intuitions, strategies, algorithms, heuristics, metaphors, and hunches that regrettably have the look and feel of useful and accurate knowledge."
My experience is that the formally educated tend to be less ignorant. Of course, "the contrary may be shown"
I don't disagree at all with that sentiment. I tend to believe however that ignorance is more an attitude or state of mind rather than a consistency or polarity of strategies and algorithms within one's head.
I seem to notice more ignorance in folks that are sure they know everything. One the other side of that coin I seem to notice more wisdom in folks that are sure they are ignorant of a certain subject and are just trying to understand. I believe this is something that formal education cannot correct.
To quote a wise and old Texas sage named Ron White: "You can't fix stupid." And my opinion is that is so. I just hate to see people attempting to hide their stupidity behind an education. And to be fair I am not implying by any means educated folks are stupid, they are not.
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One of my best personal educators was my grandmother who was pulled out of school after the Sixth Grade. Being born in 1893, things were a tad bit different for young women in those days, especially if you had two little brothers and your mother had died. She taught me so many things about life and how to make lemonade out of sour lemons.
RADAR, post: 392131, member: 413 wrote: [MEDIA=youtube]Qhm7-LEBznk[/MEDIA]
I'm sure I could find something else to talk about.....
paden cash, post: 392158, member: 20 wrote: I'm sure I could find something else to talk about.....
IKR?
I saw an interview that revealed the back story on this; they were traveling home the day after finals at the university they attended. Her excuse was; her brain was overloaded, the last few days and caused her to over think things...
Just shows to go you; to much education isn't necessarily a good thing...:smarty:
