> They look great!! My only thought would be for all the effort to make and set them, I would have put brass or aluminum disks instead of the plastic, just for longevity.
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> edit...Those look like plastic, but maybe they are metal?? Can't tell for sure on second look.
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> Andy
Aloha, Andy:
Well...I think that is the difference between amateurs like me and professional surveyors like you all! That thought only occurred to me after I got everything installed! Brass would have been really cool!
May be it is not too late...I can epoxy something on it in the near future;-)
Edit: They are plastic!! Won't rust for years. I hope the weeds will protect it from UV!
well, I wouldn't worry about it at all. I think its the cold that makes plastic brittle, so they will probably be fine.
"The island we live Kauai is the oldest of the island chains. So no active volcanos. 🙂 It is an awesome place!":-X
Hanalei? 🙂
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> Hanalei? 🙂
Aloha,
We are actually right below Mount Waialeale--extinct volcano. This area is called Wailua Homestead. The Wailua River runs through the property.
> No re-bar, the frost is going to kill them. Oh that's right you live in Paradise and no frost. I am being sinful with envy, sorry can't help it.
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> Actually your monuments look really good and should serve you well. Keep working on your project, you have come a long way since you started.
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> T.W.
Aloha, Tom:
Thanks!
I know...we get that kind of joke all the time. Price you pay for living in the paradise:-D
Thanks to all of your help and encouragements.
It surely is awesome place.
I commend you for your efforts. These sort of applications set you apart and puts an individual stamp of ownership and professionalism on your work.
Waimea Canyon! Breathtaking. Kilauea Lighthouse was another favoured trip.
Recommend it to anyone that wants fantastic scenery, and a lifestyle probably few experience.
We were having a fantastic meal in an inconspicuous cafe (fantastic food) when in strolled a young lad, talked to the lady of the shop, disappeared then returned with a huge fish more than half his height and plonked it on the table and was off.
Health and safety would have freaked out back home. We loved it. Life in the raw at its very best.
Oh! Couldn't help notice how survey marks abound. Felt quite at home amongst them.
Glad you enjoy your visit Richard!
> It surely is awesome place.
>
> I commend you for your efforts. These sort of applications set you apart and puts an individual stamp of ownership and professionalism on your work.
>
> Waimea Canyon! Breathtaking. Kilauea Lighthouse was another favoured trip.
> Recommend it to anyone that wants fantastic scenery, and a lifestyle probably few experience.
> We were having a fantastic meal in an inconspicuous cafe (fantastic food) when in strolled a young lad, talked to the lady of the shop, disappeared then returned with a huge fish more than half his height and plonked it on the table and was off.
> Health and safety would have freaked out back home. We loved it. Life in the raw at its very best.
>
> Oh! Couldn't help notice how survey marks abound. Felt quite at home amongst them.
Ho'opulapula Haraguchi Rice Mill and Taro farm?
Oop's Wailua River is on the East side! 🙂
Good thing they are set in Hawaii.
Those would pop up from frost heave in Northern US in the winter.
I hate to be "that guy" who can find potential problems... but...
the PVC sleeves are very nice, but relatively smooth. A cylindrical monument can somewhat easily be pulled by mischievous people. That's why the concrete bound monuments that we have made up are 8inch square at the base, and taper to 4" by 4" at the top. Good luck yanking a tapered monument.
Even a rebar can be yanked, I suppose, but the crimping/stamping that is added during the manufacturing process helps to "roughen" the sides, therby increasing the pull-out friction force.
Nicely done - those should last quite a long time in Hawaii. Here in Arizona we call them "Cotton Picker Spindles". Used to be where I could get them from a John Deere shop in Buckeye, I remember paying a mechanic $10 for a 5-gallon bucket half-full. I could have taken more, but it was all I could do to carry that bucket being half full. I know that in cold country, the highway department doesn't like them in the pavement as the cutting edge of the snow plow blade will catch the tops of the CPS and it damages the cutting edge of the plow. They are also a bit brittle and tough to drive into frozen pavement, but drive nicely in summertime conditions, like today.
> Ho'opulapula Haraguchi Rice Mill and Taro farm?
> Oop's Wailua River is on the East side! 🙂
Nice to see someone who knows their way around the island despite of being several thousand miles away!:hi5:
> I hate to be "that guy" who can find potential problems... but...
>
> the PVC sleeves are very nice, but relatively smooth. A cylindrical monument can somewhat easily be pulled by mischievous people. That's why the concrete bound monuments that we have made up are 8inch square at the base, and taper to 4" by 4" at the top. Good luck yanking a tapered monument.
>
> Even a rebar can be yanked, I suppose, but the crimping/stamping that is added during the manufacturing process helps to "roughen" the sides, therby increasing the pull-out friction force.
Aloha, Craig:
They all are within "somewhat" fenced property 😉 so I am not too worry about vandals. I am more concerned about the monks ripping them out with heavy equipment!! We have construction backhoe, skid steer and couple farm tractors with various implements. I made every possible attempt to keep them out the way and while making them inter-visible. I am seriously educating everyone the value of survey markers and monuments.
Then we have occasional visit by contractors with dozers or excavators to help with clearing. I have spent days searching for old monuments and failed. They somehow always manage to find them with their dozer blade or excavator bucket just in few minutes after being on the site! Go figure! B-)
Tapered concrete that sounds like great idea. :good: I might do something like that in the future. Thank you.
> Nicely done - those should last quite a long time in Hawaii. Here in Arizona we call them "Cotton Picker Spindles". Used to be where I could get them from a John Deere shop in Buckeye, I remember paying a mechanic $10 for a 5-gallon bucket half-full. I could have taken more, but it was all I could do to carry that bucket being half full. I know that in cold country, the highway department doesn't like them in the pavement as the cutting edge of the snow plow blade will catch the tops of the CPS and it damages the cutting edge of the plow. They are also a bit brittle and tough to drive into frozen pavement, but drive nicely in summertime conditions, like today.
Aloha, Joe:
Thanks!
I wish they are available in buckets over here!! Cost me a bit to buy and ship about 60 pieces!: I notice may surveyors here use them to set their control points. That is how I got the idea. Somehow I pay more attention to these things on the road and sidewalks these days 😀
Old Surveyor's Joke: If you get lost in the woods just pound a stake in the ground, hit it with a bit of paint or ribbon and sit back and wait. A dozer will be along shortly to lead you out.:-D 😀
Before the days of CORS/HARN stations, we would have to recover old triangulation monuments for control. If the surface mark was missing, but the description mentioned an underground mark, we would dig to try and find the underground mark. If found, we would throw a horseshoe in there for future recovery (and for good luck!).
NGS stations almost always had no ferrous metal in them (for metal detectors). I was told it was so that one could calibrate a compass without influence from and iron or steel in the monument, but there may be other reasons.
Nice looking monuments.
No iron because most of them were set before magnetic locators were available to surveyors.
> ....I am not too worry about vandals. I am more concerned about the monks ripping them out....
I hear ya man, I hate it when that happens.:-P
> Old Surveyor's Joke: If you get lost in the woods just pound a stake in the ground, hit it with a bit of paint or ribbon and sit back and wait. A dozer will be along shortly to lead you out.:-D 😀
Aloha, Stephen:
That's a good one!!:good: :good:
> Before the days of CORS/HARN stations, we would have to recover old triangulation monuments for control. If the surface mark was missing, but the description mentioned an underground mark, we would dig to try and find the underground mark. If found, we would throw a horseshoe in there for future recovery (and for good luck!).
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> NGS stations almost always had no ferrous metal in them (for metal detectors). I was told it was so that one could calibrate a compass without influence from and iron or steel in the monument, but there may be other reasons.
>
> Nice looking monuments.
Aloha, John:
Thanks!
Sometimes I do feel guilty with the use of modern equipment. I can't even come close imagine the difficulties all the old timers when through to establish what we have on the ground today. Makes me very, very grateful each time I push a button. (not blindly of course--thanks to you all!:-) )
