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reido99, post: 408794, member: 1068 wrote: He does ok work. Just kind of pissed that he can take work away from me and not have to pass the state exam.

I feel like that is the primary argument you have in contacting the State to remove that rule.

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 11:17 am
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reido99, post: 408794, member: 1068 wrote: He does ok work. Just kind of pissed that he can take work away from me and not have to pass the state exam.

If nothing else they should have an abbreviated state specific exam before temp licenses are issued.

By giving him a temp license, your state has basically decided that he has already demonstrated the level of training, education, and experience sufficient to be equivalent to the min. required in your state.

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 11:23 am
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http://www.bisel.com/descriptions/Bk43.htm

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 11:52 am
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James Fleming, post: 408785, member: 136 wrote: one of these on their desk

That's the Good Book right there!

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 12:18 pm
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James Fleming, post: 408785, member: 136 wrote: As someone licensed originally in Maryland and recently (last month) in Pennsylvania; if someone's experience is predominately from an another state, and they don't have one of these on their desk, there is enough boundary law that is unique to Pennsylvania that something is going to get royally screwed up.

Many an attorney and municipal reviewer have received copies from that book. The PA Surveyors Bible.

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 12:49 pm
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John Putnam, post: 408789, member: 1188 wrote: Even when they had it, you could not get one. The board required you sit for the exam before they issued the 'Temporary License'. At lease it was that way when I asked about it in the late 90's early 00's.

In California, it was a temporary license for one project and not for wholesale practice. When the license involved a state exam (i.e., land surveyor, civil engineer, etc.), the Board required the applicant to take and pass the state exam(s) within 180 days. In most cases, either the project completed prior to 180 days or the out-of-state licensee failed the state exam(s). Vast majority of requests were civil engineer. Either way, the Board always disliked this authority because there was no accountability if something happened relative to the performance of that temporary licensee...the temporary license expired and the person was out of state. The Board finally eliminated as others have stated and we could not be happier.

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 2:00 pm
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I don't agree with the idea of temporary licenses at all. Think about it.....it's moronic

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 6:35 pm
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Amen, Brother, Amen.

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 6:53 pm
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I'll have to pick up the Pennsylvania headnotes/cases, I bet they got some good ones.

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 6:59 pm
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I had never checked for a temporary license verification and just went through the alphabet a to z to find 2 active temporary Land Surveying licenses. The fact that all expired 12/31 cleared the old list. PA gives you a new temporary number every year and lists every one. Some have come back year after year.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 7:07 pm
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What a joke! Sad.

 
Posted : 12/01/2017 8:19 pm
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reido99, post: 408755, member: 1068 wrote: Just wondering what fellow surveyors think about this.

There is a gentleman that is licensed in another state. He gets a 30 day reciprocal license in Pennsylvania. He surveys under this "Temporary License" all year. He adds the time for each job together until he reaches 30 days, instead of 30 consecutive days.

Any thoughts? Too me this seems B.S.

After looking at the application for a temporary licence I'd say that the clear intent is for a one time project for one client. The only time I've seen it used was where a client owned three contiguous agricultural parcels; one in MD, one straddling the line, and one in PA, and wanted a survey of all his holdings.

 
Posted : 20/01/2017 4:54 am
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I can't find anything about temporary license in Virginia. I don't think that will fly around here. Like others have said, this is the first I've ever even heard of such a thing. Very interesting.

 
Posted : 27/01/2017 8:28 am
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