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Stillplumb
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Just curious about others' thoughts on this situation:

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Parcel is divided into two tracts by court order in early 1900ƒ??s and conveyed by Commissionerƒ??s deeds to two relatives recognized as owners by the court. There is no record plat.

No source deed is mentioned in the court order, but it states the supposed-to-be acreage. Surveyor is convinced after extensive research that original source deed was not recorded and if the tract can be traced as a remainder of a larger tract, there wonƒ??t be an adequate description.

Court-appointed commissioners are sent to the property to divide it ƒ??equally, giving due regard to the quantity, quality, and location thereofƒ?. Metes and bounds descriptions are prepared that divide the property exactly 60/40 by the supposed-to-be acreage. (60/40 was not prescribed in the order but it seems unlikely that it was coincidence.)

The smaller tract, that is currently being surveyed, has the original described acreage by both current survey and small forced closure of the original metes and bounds description. The larger tract is about 0.5 acres +/- shy of described acreage by both current survey and small forced closure of original metes and bounds description.

Any thoughts/opinions on:

~~Pro-rate the new survey 60/40, or leave tracts as-is considering the original division was based on ƒ??quantity, quality, and locationƒ?, and not just quantity? The original division line has been occupied and recognized for over 100 years.

~~One side of the tract being surveyed has a small deflection (and corner) where the adjoinerƒ??s deed calls for a straight line. The straight-line description on the adjoinerƒ??s deed pre-dates the commissionerƒ??s description of the subject tract by at least 35-45 years and there is no physical evidence that the deflection was ever there. Since there is nothing to go by except the commissionerƒ??s description, insert the deflection or hold straight line of previous survey of adjoinerƒ??s tract? If deflection is pinned and causes a stink, would court recognize the deflection since it was already prepared ƒ??by the courtƒ?, albeit over 100 years ago?

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Posted : March 17, 2023 3:10 pm
hi-staker
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Here is my initial thought on this post:

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Posted : March 18, 2023 5:50 pm
Jon Payne
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"The original line has been occupied and recognized for over 100 years."  Seems clear enough.

 

The deflection one isn't as clear cut to me.  But, given that a deed earlier than the commissioner's deed calls for a straight line, there is no physical evidence of the deflection, and you don't have the deed that precedes the commissioner's deeds, I would suggest 1st) see if the adjoining deed continues to trace back as a straight line (and see if it might lead to a predecessor in title for the unrecorded deed) 2nd) what is the specific language of the slight deflection (i.e is it a call to the neighbor who has a straight line called out)

 
Posted : March 19, 2023 1:33 pm
Stillplumb
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@jon-payne 

1: The adjoiner's deed traces back as a straight line with a B&D for several deeds.

2: The commissioner's deed says: 'with John Doe's line B&D (no monument called for), thence B&D to a tree'. I've unsuccessfully traced the adjoining deeds way back looking for a link to a previous deed for subject property. The old deeds mostly say northerly or easterly with so-and- so's line, etc.; not many B&D's.

Thanks for your thoughts. 

 
Posted : March 19, 2023 4:19 pm
Stillplumb
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@hi-staker 

Understood - no harm intended. I'm no IT expert, but all my previous employers' IT departments allowed employees to download pdf's. Other types of files, not so.

 
Posted : March 19, 2023 4:29 pm

Wendell
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Here is my initial thought on this post:

There is ZERO chance I am going to click on and download a pdf from a new user with 1 post.  Doing so is a great way to download a virus, get hacked, etc.

FWIW, every upload here goes through a strict security scan process before it is allowed to stay. For new users with zero previous posts, I also review them personally prior to allowing the post to go live.

That said, I totally understand and appreciate your caution. I'd likely do the same thing if I wasn't on this side of the website.

 

 
Posted : March 20, 2023 10:00 am
peter-lothian
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That said, I totally understand and appreciate your caution. I'd likely do the same thing if I wasn't on this side of the website.

 


GIF

 

 
Posted : March 20, 2023 10:16 am
holy-cow
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Our black and white television indicated it was a grey curtain.  The horse of a different color didn't work too well, either.

 
Posted : March 20, 2023 10:43 am