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 Thad
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says a surveyor to a contractor I do models for.
Location - Shelby, NC
Is this true? I thought it worked in most places.

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 6:52 am
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My guess is that he's referring to the availability of RTN service.

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 7:08 am
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Or he is doing underground surveying....... 🙂

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 7:25 am
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I thought VRS covered most if not all of NC. I may be mistaken.
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Posted : 02/02/2016 7:32 am
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http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-cors/corsage.prl?site=NCSH

NCGS has a station in Shelby. There should be great coverage on NC VRS

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 7:53 am
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Thad, post: 356123, member: 3408 wrote: says a surveyor to a contractor

[sarcasm]He probably read it on the internet.....[/sarcasm]

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 7:59 am
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VA LS 2867, post: 356144, member: 1444 wrote: http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-cors/corsage.prl?site=NCSH

NCGS has a station in Shelby. There should be great coverage on NC VRS

Yep, no problem with getting on a network in Shelby. Does this particular contractor use VRS or does he set up his own base, maybe the job is in a hole?

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 8:15 am
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Thad, post: 356123, member: 3408 wrote: says a surveyor to a contractor I do models for.
Location - Shelby, NC
Is this true? I thought it worked in most places.

Thad be careful, I build a lot of models and have talked with a lot of contractors in this area and there seems to be some unlicensed individuals offering modeling services to people. Most of these individuals know a little cad work but dont have as much experience with the working end of it. Maybe he has gotten some misinformation from one of these scoundrals.

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 8:18 am
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Adam, post: 356150, member: 8900 wrote: Yep, no problem with getting on a network in Shelby. Does this particular contractor use VRS or does he set up his own base, maybe the job is in a hole?

He uses both base and vrs.

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 9:20 am
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Adam, post: 356151, member: 8900 wrote: Thad be careful, I build a lot of models and have talked with a lot of contractors in this area and there seems to be some unlicensed individuals offering modeling services to people. Most of these individuals know a little cad work but dont have as much experience with the working end of it. Maybe he has gotten some misinformation from one of these scoundrals.

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Posted : 02/02/2016 9:23 am
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Adam, post: 356151, member: 8900 wrote: Thad be careful, I build a lot of models and have talked with a lot of contractors in this area and there seems to be some unlicensed individuals offering modeling services to people. Most of these individuals know a little cad work but dont have as much experience with the working end of it. Maybe he has gotten some misinformation from one of these scoundrals.

Does a person have to be licensed to provide such services? (I am not asking if they SHOULD be, I am asking if it is actually codified that they must be).

I am not sure how it works here. There are probably some catch all things in the law that could be used to say the person is practicing without a license, but I don't think our code specifically mentions DTM work.

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 9:33 am
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In NC, yes. I attached the NCBEELS memo on the matter.

Attached files

3DModelingrev1 _0607-2.pdf (17.7 KB) 

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 9:36 am
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Dan Patterson, post: 356171, member: 1179 wrote: Does a person have to be licensed to provide such services? (I am not asking if they SHOULD be, I am asking if it is actually codified that they must be).

I am not sure how it works here. There are probably some catch all things in the law that could be used to say the person is practicing without a license, but I don't think our code specifically mentions DTM work.

In NC you must be a licensed engineering or surveying company. I can post the link later after I get back to the office. Too late- see above link.

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 9:38 am
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Thad, post: 356123, member: 3408 wrote: says a surveyor to a contractor I do models for.
Location - Shelby, NC
Is this true? I thought it worked in most places.

There are places where "GPS" should not be used especially for machine control. The terrain, vegetation, shape of the site ( long skinny r/w thru heavy canopy or wide open cow pasture ), whats the details?

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 9:51 am
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Thad, post: 356123, member: 3408 wrote: says a surveyor to a contractor I do models for.
Location - Shelby, NC
Is this true? I thought it worked in most places.

We have built a project in Shelby using machine control with no issues. I wonder if they are using a base and getting stepped on by someone on the same network close by.

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 10:24 am
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A lot of the contractors I have worked with around here have equipment that has been used rough. I have found cables to be a problem, I dont know why but the first thing you here is the GPS aint workin today. No, Its workin fine Mr. Contractor, you need to treat your equipment a little better. Have had this conversation standing beside a receiver with the radio antenna duct taped to the unit.

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 10:55 am
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Adam, post: 356185, member: 8900 wrote: A lot of the contractors I have worked with around here have equipment that has been used rough. I have found cables to be a problem, I dont know why but the first thing you here is the GPS aint workin today. No, Its workin fine Mr. Contractor, you need to treat your equipment a little better. Have had this conversation standing beside a receiver with the radio antenna duct taped to the unit.

The contractor hasn't checked the site for GPS. The surveyor is the one who told the contractor.

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 12:01 pm
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:-S

 
Posted : 02/02/2016 1:31 pm
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Thad, post: 356194, member: 3408 wrote: The contractor hasn't checked the site for GPS. The surveyor is the one who told the contractor.

LOL, I get it now....

 
Posted : 03/02/2016 7:33 am
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The surveyor said that so he could get more stakeout fees LOL

 
Posted : 05/02/2016 8:02 am