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I did see the other thread already.

Are there any alternate sources for NGS data sheets?


 
Posted : October 1, 2013 2:48 pm
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Ask to see if someone in your state has Terrain Navigator Pro. The datasheets are usually downloaded as part of the program.


 
Posted : October 1, 2013 3:38 pm
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Would Not Doubt It Is Through An NGS Link

Only a vindictive person would shut down computers that run on their own.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : October 1, 2013 3:49 pm
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Would Not Doubt It Is Through An NGS Link

The servers still use electricity both for power and air conditioning = $$


 
Posted : October 1, 2013 4:01 pm
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This web service is using NGS control point information from 2011 according to the metadata, and I haven't checked to see what information is included:

http://maps1.arcgisonline.com/ArcGIS/rest/services/NGS_Survey_Control_Points/MapServer

On this site there are links to view the data in ArcMap, ArcGIS Explorer, ArcGIS JavaScript, and Google Earth.

Melita


 
Posted : October 1, 2013 4:04 pm

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NGS Data Base

I don't mean to be rude, but anyone who thinks the NGS database is nothing more than an autonomous computer sitting on a desk somewhere and can run without attention must still believe in the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny. The NGS database, internally referenced as the IDB (Integrated Data Base) is without a doubt the most sophisticated relational survey database anywhere in the world hosting data on something like 1 million plus individual passive and active control stations. The "datasheet" that everyone is use to is not an existing product, each and everyone is computed on the fly in microseconds by a network of thousands of subroutines that select and validate the appropriate information for any specific request. Just as the various elements of the National Spatial Reference System require highly skilled, world class geodesists to collect gravity data, compute geoid models, manage the CORS network, develop and manage OPUS and the array of other geodetic utilities, so too the IDB requires constant attention from a staff of very talented and dedicated IT professionals. The database team and associated technical staff committees at NGS work very much behind the scenes, but I can personally vouch for their amazing dedication to building and maintaining the IDB and their service to the nation. In addition there are a host of rules that virtually all federal agencies must comply with in the case of a shutdown, among which are limiting access to federal computer systems without proper staff to monitor security and use.


 
Posted : October 1, 2013 9:39 pm
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Complain to your Congressman!


 
Posted : October 2, 2013 5:04 am
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> This web service is using NGS control point information from 2011 according to the metadata, and I haven't checked to see what information is included:
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> http://maps1.arcgisonline.com/ArcGIS/rest/services/NGS_Survey_Control_Points/MapServer
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> On this site there are links to view the data in ArcMap, ArcGIS Explorer, ArcGIS JavaScript, and Google Earth.
>
> Melita

Thanks Melita!

That did bring up the point plot locations of the benchmarks, just not the ability to view the data sheets. Oh well, I will rely on the local county surveyor benchmarks for this project.

Brad


 
Posted : October 2, 2013 6:25 am
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I know it does not help NOW...but

Since the recent datum update, I have re-downloaded ALL of the NGS datasheets in the counties I typically work in, by html file and by shapefile. Texas has 254 counties so I have not attempted to download all.

Just a thought process for any future NGS shutdowns.


 
Posted : October 2, 2013 11:39 am
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Use the Google Earth plug-in (Benchmark Hunter) and click the geocaching link, then click view original datasheet on the geochaching site. It will bring up a version stored on their site.

Benchmark Hunter


 
Posted : October 2, 2013 1:23 pm

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> Use the Google Earth plug-in (Benchmark Hunter) and click the geocaching link, then click view original datasheet on the geochaching site. It will bring up a version stored on their site.
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> Benchmark Hunter

That's It!! That is the Ticket!

I am making a beer money deposit into the tip jar right now in your honor.

Thank you.

Brad


 
Posted : October 2, 2013 1:56 pm
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NGS Data Base

:good:


 
Posted : October 3, 2013 8:31 am
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JHenry is the man!


 
Posted : October 3, 2013 9:31 am
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I know it does not help NOW...but

It doesn't work for me. I don't get an option to view original data sheet? Please explain? HELP ME PLEASE!!!!


 
Posted : October 3, 2013 9:36 am
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It doesn't work for me? I don't get an option to view original data sheet? Explain please?


 
Posted : October 3, 2013 9:37 am

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Those sheets aren't current.


 
Posted : October 7, 2013 1:17 pm