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dave-karoly
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This pipe and cap is similar to others that BLM accepted in the early 1980s as perpetuations of original corners (verified by BTs). Whoever set these knew what they were doing. I painted the cap orange then wiped it off to make the dot pattern easier to see. This is nominally the center east 1/16th Corner of Section 8, T7N, R14E, MDM. BLM resurveyed a bunch of Sections in the township but only the south and east lines of Section 8 (including the 1/16th corners on those lines). I'm trying to decide what the stamping is, either "16" or some type of cruiser mark. This may not be intended to be the 1/16th corner, possibly just a cruise plot center. All the timber cruiser stuff I have seen out there, though, is just tags on the trees.

There is lots of signs of reliance in the form of "TIMBER HARVEST BOUNDARY" flagging 😉

This is looking north. One thing is the property lines into this corner are going south and east, not north and west as depicted. The pipe could have been rotated 180° but it is firmly set. It sticks up about 2' just like the ones that BLM accepted and remonumented with their aluminum post. PG&E owns the property generally west and north and Sierra Pacific Industries (a timber company) generally southeasterly:


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 3:56 pm
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> ..... The pipe could have been rotated 180° but it is firmly set. It sticks up about 2' just like the ones that BLM accepted and remonumented with their aluminum post.

Actually.....maybe that's the problem....the pipe couldn't have been rotated 180º because it's firmly set,;-)


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 4:41 pm
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Dave -

I'm just guessing here
but maybe it says


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 4:50 pm
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Multiple "Pin Cushion", all on the same pipe.
Pick your punch mark. TIC.


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 5:14 pm
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It looks like 15 to me too. I don't know why they would stamp 15 on it.


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 5:31 pm

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Yes, that was what I was thinking before I saw the marked-up photo. It makes a poor 15 but a very much worse 16.


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 5:34 pm
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The section corner is stamped like that except the numbers are clearly stamped (in dots):

5 | 4
-----
8 | 9

And the quarter corner is clearly stamped: 8 | 9 in dots.

The 15 doesn't make sense to me right now.


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 6:16 pm
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> The 15 doesn't make sense to me right now.

Is it a 15' offset in the direction of the arrow?


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 7:38 pm
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ah ha.... Witness corner. Is there any record of this survey, or just the monuments in the ground?


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 7:53 pm
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No record of survey. The only thing the CS has in the whole township are some Corner Records (none for this one). I think the big timber company and PG&E kept their own survey records (there are three landowners in the township, USDA-FS, SPI and PG&E).

We need to query SPI and PG&E to see what survey records they have.

There is a cut skid road below this monument so Radar's comment may make sense. Maybe they didn't want to put the monument in the skid road; I will have to check that out.


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 8:23 pm

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If they had followed BLM Manual markings, it would be a WC and an arrow pointing towards the true point. With no record of the survey, I could see where they would want to stamp a distance on the cap too. Buy Radar a beer if he had it, 15' could save you big time!


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 10:38 pm
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Or, "RM" for offline reference monument. kinda sorta the same thing.


 
Posted : October 15, 2011 6:41 am
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Angle point or Cor. No. 15 of some tract or survey that you don't yet know about?

Don


 
Posted : October 15, 2011 2:31 pm
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Yeah, it could be. It is a corner of a PG&E hydro parcel which is made up of aliquots.


 
Posted : October 15, 2011 3:53 pm