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I got a call from a guy wanting a metes and bounds description:

All he wanted to know was what would I charge for one;-)

After a bunch of back and forth I finally got out of him that it was for a rezoning. And it's a large area.

Most of these administrative descriptions are just metes, but the requirement is for a metes and bounds description, someone that didn't know what they were talking about put that in the regulations.:-(

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 5:46 am
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MightyMoe, post: 335837, member: 700 wrote: I got a call from a guy wanting a metes and bounds description:

All he wanted to know was what would I charge for one;-)

After a bunch of back and forth I finally got out of him that it was for a rezoning. And it's a large area.

Most of these administrative descriptions are just metes, but the requirement is for a metes and bounds description, someone that didn't know what they were talking about put that in the regulations.:-(

I went around in circles with a guy who said he wanted a "legal description" after I had given him an adequate property description. I kept telling him I gave him one, and he said "no, I need a legal description". I finally realized what he was saying, and told him that he is trying to tell me he wants a "metes and bounds" style of description. I informed him that I couldn't give him one in this particular case, without doing a full boundary survey and I proceeded to explain that not all "legal descriptions" necessarily have to be in the form of "metes and bounds". I know he still thinks I am ignorant. Sometimes "you just can't fix stupid" as the saying goes.

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 6:36 am
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Tom Adams, post: 335845, member: 7285 wrote: I went around in circles with a guy who said he wanted a "legal description" after I had given him an adequate property description. I kept telling him I gave him one, and he said "no, I need a legal description". I finally realized what he was saying, and told him that he is trying to tell me he wants a "metes and bounds" style of description. I informed him that I couldn't give him one in this particular case, without doing a full boundary survey and I proceeded to explain that not all "legal descriptions" necessarily have to be in the form of "metes and bounds". I know he still thinks I am ignorant. Sometimes "you just can't fix stupid" as the saying goes.

So many people think that the metes part of the description is the metes and bounds.

And the regulators don't care, they just want the metes and care if it "closes".

I've even heard of lawyers taking out the bounds from a description, haven't had that happen to me, but I have had them exclude my "Exhibit b" which is usually my drawing.

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 6:54 am
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MightyMoe, post: 335850, member: 700 wrote: So many people think that the metes part of the description is the metes and bounds.

And the regulators don't care, they just want the metes and care if it "closes".

I've even heard of lawyers taking out the bounds from a description, haven't had that happen to me, but I have had them exclude my "Exhibit b" which is usually my drawing.

Well, what exactly is a "mete" and what is a "bound". In several dictionaries, it calls out a bound as a synonym for a mete. I've always thought that one meant the monuments, the other the lines between them, but I admit, I never really looked it up. So, what are they, individually?

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 7:14 am
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I've seen lots of deeds with no bounds: I imagine it's because someone was lazy.

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 7:14 am
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rfc, post: 335855, member: 8882 wrote: So, what are they, individually?

FROM WIKI

Typically the system uses physical features of the local geography, along with directions and distances, to define and describe the boundaries of a parcel of land. The boundaries are described in a running prose style, working around the parcel in sequence, from a point of beginning, returning to the same point; compare with the oral ritual of beating the bounds. It may include references to other adjoining parcels (and their owners), and it, in turn, could also be referred to in later surveys. At the time the description is compiled, it may have been marked on the ground with permanent monuments placed where there were no suitable natural monuments.
Metes. The term "metes" refers to a boundary defined by the measurement of each straight run, specified by a distance between the terminal points, and an orientation or direction. A direction may be a simple compass bearing, or a precise orientation determined by accurate survey methods.
Bounds. The term "bounds" refers to a more general boundary description, such as along a certain watercourse, a stone wall, an adjoining public road way, or an existing building.

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 7:19 am
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rfc, post: 335855, member: 8882 wrote: Well, what exactly is a "mete" and what is a "bound". In several dictionaries, it calls out a bound as a synonym for a mete. I've always thought that one meant the monuments, the other the lines between them, but I admit, I never really looked it up. So, what are they, individually?

"metes" is/are the bearings and distances, "bounds" are the physical or controlling calls such as monuments, senior properties, natural monuments, etc. Bounds are the primary controlling calls and metes are the calls that help you find the bounds.

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 7:24 am
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I just wrote one today. In many of the counties where I work, they require a full boundary survey of the property to be rezoned.

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 4:05 pm