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(@scott-bordenet)
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I am looking for a program or web calculator that will allow me to enter a known lat/long or coordinate and report back to me the grid/map convergence for that state plane system (or some other system) location.?ÿ I need to do calculations from true north.?ÿ I know Civil3D has a geodetic analysis feature that allows me to enter a project point and it tells me this and other info.?ÿ Any other ideas?

-Scott

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 2:36 pm
(@mkennedy)
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NGS returns the convergence (and scale) in their State Plane and UTM programs. Both are downloadable.

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 3:05 pm
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My go to for most simple conversions between SP/UTM/LatLong is Corpscon6

Gives the scale factor and convergence

Works on single conversions or batch files

Can download for free here at: http://www.agc.army.mil/Missions/Corpscon/

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 3:18 pm
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Perfect - just what I was loking for.?ÿ Thanks.

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 3:20 pm
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So just thinking.....are there any programs that give combined, grid, and elevation scale factors??ÿ The NGS program just gave grid scale factor.

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 3:24 pm
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Corpscon6 provides the combined grid factor when converting a point that has an elevation.

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 3:40 pm
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I use StarNet?ÿ to do that when needed. It's not what the program is for, but it can easily be tricked onto doing it for you. ?ÿ

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 3:44 pm
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Posted by: ekillo

Corpscon6 provides the combined grid factor when converting a point that has an elevation.

And the factors are correct IF the output is chosen to be NAVD88.

We dissected the problem toward the end of an old thread

https://surveyorconnect.com/community/surveying-geomatics/corpscon-6-combined-scale-factor-wrong/paged/2/

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 4:26 pm
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This is from the CORPSCON website just a few moments ago:

KNOWN BUGS

- CORSPCON 6.0 provides an erroneous Combined Scale Factor.?ÿ

Some folks in our organization have an earlier download of Corpscon6 that gives a combined scale factor. Mine, downloaded a few months ago, gives the CSF as -999.00000 on the output screen. I use TBC to get scale factors, which are very close, but not identical, to the ones given by the earlier Corpscon6.?ÿ

I'll have to defer to Trimble on this one.

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 5:30 pm
(@bill93)
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Posted by: Rick Taylor

KNOWN BUGS

- CORSPCON 6.0 provides an erroneous Combined Scale Factor.?ÿ

That note has been there for a long time.?ÿ We tracked down the conditions under which it gave bad CSF and that turned out to be a non-NAVD88 output selection improperly dealt with.

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 5:40 pm
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Sin of lat times delta long equals convergence...

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 6:37 pm
(@scott-bordenet)
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Corpscon 6.01 does exactly what I want.?ÿ Thx for the replies.

 
Posted : December 14, 2017 7:36 am