I'm not sure that this LightSquared thing isn't a blessing in disguise for the survey business. The death of reliable GPS puts a serious cramp in GIS and a dagger in the heart of Machine Control.
Mark
Does this mean that I should be dusting off my “old” gear and checking the batteries.
Hmmm...I think I re-celled the GTS-3b batteries a couple of years ago (but haven't turned it on since), my AGA Model 78 runs off a 12 volt gell cell (assuming that the LASER will still fire).
Maybe I should just drop back to the T-2 and 200' Tape (no batteries to worry about).
WOW, the price of surveying (just about anything) just went WAY UP!
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Loyal
Loyal
Maybe you guys are gonna have to do it like some of us did, years ago? Chain and transit!
Keith
Been there, done that (only with a 100' steel tape not a chain). Besides which, I don't have a transit!
I'm too old and lazy to WORK like that anymore!
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Loyal
Loyal
Hey, I still have an 8 chain and a Dietzgen transit. I am ready to survey.....oh wait, just getting too old for that stuff!
Keith
I "played" with one of those 8_Chain (more like a big wire) babies about 40 years ago, and it was HEAVY even then! Two good chainmen could cover a lot of ground under the right circumstances. We were in the heavy timber, so it wasn't really the right tool for the job. Hell, we couldn't even find a road in the High Uinta's with a tangent long enough to use the whole thing!
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Loyal
I'm still limping along with my Set 630R and 48gx/SMI V-7....come on LightSquared!
Loyal
I started off rear chaining and down on the rolling hills in South Dakota, we stretched it out all the time.
Quite a few days, we chained 6 miles across the township. And some of those days, it was more than a little warm!
Loyal
> Maybe you guys are gonna have to do it like some of us did, years ago? Chain and transit!
Heck with that! Lightsquared be damned if they are going to interfere with my EDM signals! I still carry a plumb-bob, always will, but chaining days are over! 😉
I still have to use the steel tape now and then... 🙁
> I'm not sure that this LightSquared thing isn't a blessing in disguise for the survey business. The death of reliable GPS puts a serious cramp in GIS and a dagger in the heart of Machine Control.
I guess, but isn't that like saying you hope that email goes away so the postal employees have something to do?
Loyal
> I started off rear chaining and down on the rolling hills in South Dakota, we stretched it out all the time.
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> Quite a few days, we chained 6 miles across the township. And some of those days, it was more than a little warm!
Did you stop to take any water breaks?
snoop
Had a few breaks, but kept on the move, sometimes running!
Loyal
Everyone is welcome to snicker all they want, have invested in a T-16 and have 1 Lufkin Nubian 200' tape and two 100' tapes (all add tapes, still have nightmares about cut chains) still in the wax paper, with three reels still in the box.
If electricity is not an option for recharging batteries, I can still work.
The irony of this is that L1 will be used to locate the towers that will put an end to L1.
So at some point, the reliable GPS cannot be used to finish the locations.
Sounds like the price of tower staking will be going up.
"ammo up"
Forget Lightsqured....
Trees Killed GPS around here 😛
Cut Chains
P.L.,
No nightmares, but I do not want to see one again except the one I have that used to belong to my father and is no longer in use. I learned on a cut chain and wanted an add chain from the second I learned that such a chain even existed.
Cut Chains
Never used a cut chain or an add chain??
But used a 8 chainer a lot.
Cut Chains
There is not many places to use an 8 chainer in NE Texas. The terrain is not flat enough and you would be draggin alot of unused chain all day and your helpers would have you strung up and hangin from it before the end of day 1.
I've used cut chains. Prefer an add or highway chain. We never had to use a complete set of chain pins because we normally would set traverse every 300ft or so because of the terrain and trees.
Many days most of the time was spent breaking chain at 15ft to 30ft intervals.
Don't really want to go back to that. Will if that is what I gotta do. Not sure if today's helpers are trainable to use a chain. One in a dozen can complete a prism setup consistently.
😉
Forget Lightsqured....
So cut all the trees down.
You can tell them that they should have foreseen the advent of GPS and that they had plenty of time to move elsewhere...
:good:
Cut Chains
O.K. Add Chain - rear chainman holds the foot, head chainman reads the hundredths.
Cut Chain - I never used or understood.
Don