Leica SmartWorks - LGO deleted point recovey - Help

not sure what to do. send me any backup files. i will try to find something

The point was deleted in the 1250TC data collector.

Still think you can do it?

Just got a call back from Leica Support.

They said once it's gone, it's gone, no raw data record of it at all.

If you have an original raw data file saved on your office computer before the change, you may still have the info.

It doesn't save the raw data collector or receiver files? Oh my:-(

Nope and Nope.

A defect in the software, acknowledged by Leica.

Worse, there's no undelete.

Nor a method to tell the good points from the bad ones it carries over from the previous job as your control - hey, but control's not important is it?

You just delete and hope it gets the right one.

I would have thought it would have kept the raw data, but apparently not.

If you think that's bad, try rotating and translating sometime for a real white knuckle ride. No "undo".

Wow!

Not that it is going to ease your pain on this oops, BUT I backup the DC to the PC everyday, I actually do two backups, one to a backup directory on the CF card and then copy that file to the PC too, can recover at any time that way. Of course if this actually happened last summer while you were still in the field then this backup wouldn't help. Leica 1200 user, but this is good practice for any and all brands.

SHG

Well, it's a good lesson, maybe in patience first.

Nothing a lot of chiseling can't cure.

Hey, can I borrow anyone's ice auger?

Not that it is going to ease your pain on this oops, BUT I backup the DC to the PC everyday, I actually do two backups, one to a backup directory on the CF card and then copy that file to the PC too, can recover at any time that way. Of course if this actually happened last summer while you were still in the field then this backup wouldn't help. Leica 1200 user, but this is good practice for any and all brands.

Not really: I don't want to get into a brand discussion, but I've got old DC files from the mid-1990's on. As long as the computer server is being backed up the DC files once downloaded are saved. Can't imagine why they don't do that. So any location can be recreated if fat fingers lose it.

I've been in on computers and programming since the Commodore 64, I've written some early software, and this is just one of the things that computers do well, IF the programmers have the sense to insert a simple routine or two.

A simple batch file to do it would also work. I don't know what it would take to manually back up the 1200s files as the workday gets done, before the machine is shut off (including batter changes of course), but a batch file or included routine would be better.

It's just odd that the computer program doesn't save that day's work to a file inside the program or on a tree outside the main program like the old autocad point file location. These days it only a matter of storage and those files aren't very large.

Not sure, but if the data is being stored on a memory card, there are programs out there that allow you to recover files that have been deleted. I know your chances decrease as the hidden data gets over written with new data.

Might be worth a try.

It's just odd that the computer program doesn't save that day's work to a file inside the program or on a tree outside the main program like the old autocad point file location. These days it only a matter of storage and those files aren't very large.

The data file writes (saves) as the points are shot - one thing they got right. On an internal file only. And you're right - the files are miniscule.

Not sure, but if the data is being stored on a memory card, there are programs out there that allow you to recover files that have been deleted. I know your chances decrease as the hidden data gets over written with new data.

It's not the file, but a point IN a file, so the file is overwritten very often. Leica does have a problem allowing duplicate numbered points (for whatever reason), but that's another issue.

I understand that. It gets complicated, but basically what your looking for is a copy of the old job prior to the point being deleted. This file would be recovered to a different location and re-named, then opened to recover the desired point data.

It's a process that is iffy. The recovered files have the potential to be corrupt. Many times you have to test the system by doing a similar process...say delete a point within a job file, then note the exact time the change was made. Then search the disk for files altered during a specific time frame. That would get you to the location and naming sequence. Many times older programs actually save numerous versions of the file on the disk to allow for the "undo" feature to work. The most familiar one would be the AutoCAD .bak file.

You have the .bak file available to retrieve as well as all of the .bak files that were deleted, but still intact on the disk.

Having a lot of free space on a large disk increases the chance of recovery as does retrieval immediately after the mistake.

Your probably better off to just re-measure the corner.

One time while I was traveling, I took my camera into Sportsman's Warehouse and was taking pictures to show my kids...we live in a small town so they were excited to see all of the animal mounts and the wall of guns.

Well long story short, some guy came up to me stating he worked for the store and demanded that I hand over my camera, to which I refused.

He gets on his radio and asked me to remain where I was. Soon a bouncer looking guy arrives with some attitude and increases the pressure. I ask why they want my camera. He responds by making a grab for my camera. Well that kind of pissed me off. I'm 6'2" and 240 lbs. I think I may have looked intimidating.

By now there was a scene developing. They said if I didn't hand it over they were going to call the cops. I held my ground and told them to go ahead and call the cops.

Since the strong arm tactic wasn't working, they brought out the manager.
I explain that the I wasn't handing over my camera and he tells me that if I don't they will ban me for life from shopping at every Sportman's Warehouse store in the country.

I laughed at them and headed for the door.

At this point they asked nicely if I would stay and discuss. They told me that someone had recently broken into their store and stole EVERY handgun in the store. They figured that someone took pictures to gain insight to defeat the security.

I explain that they could have handled the issue better and that I would delete the pictures from the disk. This made them very happy.

When I got home, I recovered the pictures off the disk to show my kids just to spite them.

There's some folks around Ft. Meade that may be able to help. 🙂

anonymous

Whatever they got paid, it was too much..........

Moe,

From reading the post I don't get the feeling that Mr Wenzel made a backup copy of the file before he deleted the point on the data collector. I don't recall that Trimble had an undelete key on the data collector's I used. If I deleted a point on the collector it was gone for ever, poof. Leica does make it tough to delete a point on the DC, you have to confirm your request by hitting a separate key.

Now if you have made a backup of the project database before you deleted the point you can just recover from the backup. Leica's LGO is similar to TGO in that it imports data from the data collector and does not change the raw files. It even asks if you would like to make up a back up of the raw file when you import it.

All this being said, an undo command would be nice.

When the TPS1100 series first came out they did not have a confirmation screen and I delete almost a complete days worth of work when I hit the wrong key. Shelby and I where working together on a large project in near Stockton and he can testify that I was not a happy camper. Nothing like crawling through brush you had already been through. That was like v 1.0 of the software and they did make it much harder to delete a project in later versions.