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Leica Ms50, Topcon Is and Trimble Vx

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(@totalsurv)
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If anybody has experience using any if the above I would appreciate some feedback on them particularly for scanning/imaging buildings.

Can the ms50 do the job of a traditional laser scanner just take longer.

 
Posted : 15/12/2015 2:50 pm
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I saw a site the other day that had scans performed of a cathedral with various Leica scanners including an MS50.
What is interesting is the time it took to scan the cathedral with an MS50 vs a traditional scanner.
I have no experience with scanners to date so I don't know if the results and/or the speed are good or not but it looks impressive.

Try searching "leica ms50 cathedral" and you should be able to find the website.
i think it was on a website for G4 Spatial Technologies

 
Posted : 15/12/2015 3:01 pm
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Gregg Gaffney, post: 349256, member: 1111 wrote: Try searching "leica ms50 cathedral" and you should be able to find the website.
i think it was on a website for G4 Spatial Technologies

Leica Scan Comparison

 
Posted : 15/12/2015 4:24 pm
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Yes it can to a point. If all you do is buildings then the MS50 (Now the MS60) is very capable and has a lot of settings I like over a traditional scanner in terms of selecting point density, range and data transfer.

I have used mainly the Z+F and the Leica Scanners. They are pricey, but nice if that is all you do. If you do surveying and need scanning, then I would say the Leica Robots with Scanning is a very viable option.

Email me if you have any specific questions. I am seriously considering the MS60 as my next purchase.

 
Posted : 15/12/2015 4:25 pm
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It was a good comparison....

 
Posted : 15/12/2015 4:31 pm
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I think I attended a demo of the MS50.
The salesman kept mentioning how they weren't even going to put an eyepiece on it. No need. You used the DC screen for everything.

It was very cool and deeply disturbing at the same time.

 
Posted : 15/12/2015 5:46 pm
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The Trimble VX and Topcon IS are only 15 points per second, so I do not believe you could be productive in scanning applications at that rate of capture. The MS50/60 comes in at 1,000 points per second, so if I were looking for a multi-purpose robotic instrument, it would be the first I consider.

 
Posted : 15/12/2015 6:11 pm
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Totalsurv, post: 349251, member: 8202 wrote: If anybody has experience using any if the above I would appreciate some feedback on them particularly for scanning/imaging buildings.

Can the ms50 do the job of a traditional laser scanner just take longer.

Yes, but....

Don't do it!

What will take the m50 an hour to scan takes something like the p20 3 mins, with way less noise far better density. I have been scanning both terrestrial and mobile for the past few years and have demo'd this gun. It is cool, has a couple of uses, but you will never be able to compete against companies with it for big scan jobs if that is your goal. It is basically the same speed as a scan station 2. You can probably grab one of those for 5k on ebay.

If you are just starting out a faro with dual axis compensator should be good for most applications. Leica is the best all around in my opinion, especially if you count cyclone. Z+F profiler produces the cleanest scans though.

If you want any help with scanners or software, I'd be more than happy to help.

 
Posted : 15/12/2015 6:17 pm
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I've only ran the VX but I've demoed the M50 - as a scanner the M50 is viable, the VX really is not, with the exception of some limited applications like stockpile volumes and building faces, or to grid out a hard surface. As a robotic instrument, I prefer the VX because I didn't like the GS15 or the software, whereas I think Trimble Access is the best field software out there. (I've never seen the new Leica data collector or software either, other than at trade shows. The screen looked really fantastic; the rest didn't do much for me.)

I think the new Trimble S8 will scan as well as a VX did, but I'm not sure if it supports polygonal scan regions, which is important. If you want a great robot that can do things like building faces the Trimble is excellent, but if you want one with better, faster, and more diverse scanning capability the MS50 (now 60 apparently) is the far better choice, IMHO.

 
Posted : 16/12/2015 11:21 am
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The new Trimble S7 scans faster than the VX from what I have seen.

 
Posted : 16/12/2015 12:24 pm
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Lee D, post: 349349, member: 7971 wrote: I've only ran the VX but I've demoed the M50 - as a scanner the M50 is viable, the VX really is not, with the exception of some limited applications like stockpile volumes and building faces, or to grid out a hard surface. As a robotic instrument, I prefer the VX because I didn't like the GS15 or the software, whereas I think Trimble Access is the best field software out there. (I've never seen the new Leica data collector or software either, other than at trade shows. The screen looked really fantastic; the rest didn't do much for me.)

I think the new Trimble S8 will scan as well as a VX did, but I'm not sure if it supports polygonal scan regions, which is important. If you want a great robot that can do things like building faces the Trimble is excellent, but if you want one with better, faster, and more diverse scanning capability the MS50 (now 60 apparently) is the far better choice, IMHO.

The new Trimble S7 scans faster than the VX from what I have seen.

 
Posted : 16/12/2015 12:24 pm
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That scan comparison of the Leica instruments is really useful. Cheers for the replies. Would love to have an MS60

 
Posted : 16/12/2015 12:49 pm
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The S7 also "scans" at "up to 15 points/second" per the data sheet.

 
Posted : 16/12/2015 2:05 pm
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The problem is that "up to 15 pps" often means more like 5 - 7

 
Posted : 16/12/2015 2:24 pm