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J.D. Billings' treatise on leveling with total station

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(@jerrys)
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I was just speaking with a surveyor who wants to run differential levels with his total station.

I remember on the old forum, J.D. posted a summation of his practical procedure for doing this. I do not think I was wise enough to save a copy of it and by now I am three or four computers down the road from then anyhow.

Does any Beerlegger have a copy of that? Or maybe Shawn..., you no doubt learned this at the feet of the master or the dumb end of the chain.

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 7:13 am
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I know nothing of what you are asking for but we recently had a good thread on the subject you might glean some useful information from.
https://surveyorconnect.com/index.php?mode=thread&id=247446

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 7:24 am
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> Does any Beerlegger have a copy of that? Or maybe Shawn..., you no doubt learned this at the feet of the master or the dumb end of the chain.

Hi Jerry,
I have a hard copy and if no one else has an electronic version, I will scan and post it.

Jim

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 8:09 am
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Thanks for the offer to scan and post.

I was hoping to find Shawn's email address in his profile. I read J.D.'s explanation that he posted on the old site and maybe even remember a bit of it.

I thought Shawn might be able to go to the Master himself for an electronic copy.

Do I correctly remember that J.D. wrote and article about his procedure for American Surveyor or some other publication? Maybe I am just showing my age or declining memory retention...

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 8:18 am
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Why would anyone run differential levels with the total station? 🙂

It's not that hard. I remember talking to J.D. in his office about this and I said that we had done it but instead of using the level bubble to level up, after a good colmination of the gun, we used the instrument readings itself to level it (i.e. using the readout as a tilt). It worked but most of the time, we just use trig levels and the method as prescribed by Charlie and Jesse.

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 8:39 am
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Application: Modern Total Stations are Levels, Too

Not J.D. Billings...

Application: Modern Total Stations are Levels, Too

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 10:11 am
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> Do I correctly remember that J.D. wrote and article about his procedure for American Surveyor or some other publication? Maybe I am just showing my age or declining memory retention...

Now that you mention it I think he did. I found the hard copy and it has about 30 pages including slides. If I get a chance over the weekend, I will scan it.
Jim

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 1:20 pm
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Jesse Kozlowski

Hi Jerry,
As George mentioned, Jesse prepared a very detailed paper. Dad has been doing the same thing for years with methodology very similar (if not exactly the same) as Jesse's, which was taken (if I remember correctly) from Charlie Glover.

With GPS, we haven't run levels in a long time, but before GPS we did levels with total stations almost exclusively - seldom using our auto level. Sometimes we still use the technique for transferring an elevation.

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 2:24 pm