USACE project under NAICS Code for a professional surveying services is my guess.?ÿ?ÿ
Since they are a government entity, the can have unlicensed individuals do their bidding on government property. The argument should be since the government boundary is concurrent with private property, a Professional Surveyor licensed in the state the contract is to be awarded, must be in responsible charge.
In the past, Dan Robison (DDSM), may he rest in peace, argued this subject with the Little Rock District until he was blue in the face.?ÿ
@j-holt?ÿ
Pre GPS and for a forestry boundary?ÿsounds good to me.
Here in NY, state forest rangers remark hundreds of miles of boundary every year. Some of those lines have 150+ year blazes on them and I for one am very grateful they do.
Part of the scope of work listed in past Little Rock District solicitations specified resetting monuments on the exterior bounds of government lands. Since those exterior boundary monuments are also monuments for private land owners, a PLS licensed in the that state would be required, IMHO. I am not aware of any loophole that would allow a government surveyor not licensed in a particular jurisdiction, the authority to set monuments that impacts private property.
@james-vianna I'd agree with you but this particular survey established and monumented interior 1/16 corners.?ÿ It wasn't purely a retracement.
After reading all this, it begs the question, are the painted blazes now the boundary, or are they a perpetuated mistake??ÿ And would the answer differ if the blazes were hatchet/cut vs just paint??ÿ Especially, if no one knows who made them or when it was done
@kevin-hines The supremacy clause of the constitution trumps state law. The Department of Interior is authorized by congress to survey the limits of federal interest land. They generally delegate that authority to the BLM. Several other agencies act as though they have federal authority but they usually don't.
@thebionicman Thank you for the information. That makes sense for tribal lands, national forests, etc. but the USACE does not fall under the Department of the Interior? Does the supremacy clause extend to all government agencies?
The last USACE solicitation I followed, advertised for a land surveying firm for the maintenance & perpetuation of the boundary lines, locating and re-establishing corner monuments, and specified NAICS code 541370. That contract was awarded to a fence company that had no surveyor on staff nor any experience with land surveying.
@kevin-hines The corp has no inherent authority to survey federal interest land. Occasionally BOR, USACE, USFS, and others will be delegated that authority and the survey will show up in the BLM records if approved. That is getting very rare here.
@thebionicman?ÿ Thanks for the information.
@kevin-hines The corp has no inherent authority to survey federal interest land. Occasionally BOR, USACE, USFS, and others will be delegated that authority and the survey will show up in the BLM records if approved. That is getting very rare here.
I'm not sure that is accurate, at least not in the eastern states. The USACE contracts millions of dollars of boundary surveying each year through individual district offices and regional USACE real estate offices. To my knowledge (30 years of USACE experience) the BLM is not involved in any of those contracts.
@bushaxe It's federal law. That doesn't mean the corp can't survey, just that it cannot survey under federal authority unless delegated by DOI or authorized by Congress. If that happens the survey will be reviewed and either accepted or rejected by the BLM.
Any Fed department can contract out to have private surveyors do what is needed.
@thebionicman I won't argue with you. I know what my experience is and you have no idea what my experience is. I'll leave it at that.