I believe Carlson will let you install on two computers per license.
Geomax X-Pad for Android has pretty sweet Dropbo??x and Google Drive integration while running on a Samsung tablet. No need to email or anything.
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Mark Mayer, post: 447939, member: 424 wrote: All the TSC3 I've used have wireless capability, so you could link up to any hot spot and send data direct from the collector. I've also used ones with a cellular data card, works great. Either way send emails to/from the TSC3 direct.
Anyway, a laptop that is capable of accepting files and emailing needn't cost more than about $300 these days. I'm not sure just what your guys are doing with Carlson on these laptops. If you need them to do some data manipulation before sending the csv files in that's a very different thing.
BTW - to surveyors csv files are not data. CSV files are the product of data. Raw measurements - angles, distances, vectors - these are the data. If you are not capturing that you are letting opportunity escape. CSV files are data to the engineer, but not to the surveyor.
I was reading through this thread wondering when and if someone would point this out.
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BushAxe, post: 447942, member: 11897 wrote: I was reading through this thread wondering when and if someone would point this out.
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Me too, there is one in every crowd (usually more than one at this watering trough). I realized I didn't type what I intended to say moments after my original post but chose not to edit the post since it was fairly obvious I was referring to the CSV file.
I've never had to send points to the office before I actually drove back there, so a plain old thumb drive works for me.
Our Leica DC's send directly to the a company FTP site. We can send data both ways. Leica does have some data transfer program that will import and export directly out of Infinity but they want an arm and leg for the annual subscription.
CSV files are most certainly data, they are not "RAW data";)
We use Team Viewer to remote directly into Tablet based dc's from the office. See the discussion here:
https://surveyorconnect.com/community/threads/traverse-pc-on-a-win10-tablet.331902/#post-447952
Randy Rain, post: 448324, member: 35 wrote: CSV files are most certainly data, they are not "RAW data"
Data is "raw" by definition; when data is "cooked" it becomes information 😉
James Fleming, post: 448330, member: 136 wrote: Data is "raw" by definition; when data is "cooked" it becomes information 😉
I stand corrected! Thank you sir, informative read.
I use egnyte drive on my fc5000 tablet. It works great for loading an AutoCAD drawing into Magnet Field. And when I'm done I don't do anything on the DC. I go to my computer and my files are already there.
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We do about 75% of our data transfer through asana.....Just load the files to the task and everybody can grab what they need. For crews with tablets, they work directly with asana. The other crews use the asana phone app and bluetooth files back and forth to their DC. A general task usually will have dwg, pdf, txt,jpg, and raw files installed into it by the time it is done.
First you make sure you have your handy fieldbook in your possession. Then you drive to the office and carry it in with you.
Mark Mayer, post: 447939, member: 424 wrote: All the TSC3 I've used have wireless capability, so you could link up to any hot spot and send data direct from the collector. I've also used ones with a cellular data card, works great. Either way send emails to/from the TSC3 direct.
Anyway, a laptop that is capable of accepting files and emailing needn't cost more than about $300 these days. I'm not sure just what your guys are doing with Carlson on these laptops. If you need them to do some data manipulation before sending the csv files in that's a very different thing.
BTW - to surveyors csv files are not data. CSV files are the product of data. Raw measurements - angles, distances, vectors - these are the data. If you are not capturing that you are letting opportunity escape. CSV files are data to the engineer, but not to the surveyor.
I've given that speech so many times. But I've given up getting this CAD to even try to use a JXL from Trimble Access in Trimble Business Center. Any advice on how to convince a CAD tech to follow your advice Mark? He is really sharp, learns software very fast... except insists on wanting a CSV all the time... [emoji848] I even did a demo for him to illustrate how points, and thus connected lines, shift and rotate to fit as you establish and propagate control.
Then a week later there is talk of the CSV all over again.
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We still do ours the old-fashioned way by returning to the office, pulling the CF or SD card from the DC (Leica CS15 GPS) or dropping it in the cradle (Leica CS15/Carlson), and uploading it. My excellent co-worker has the DC cradle at his desk, so the TS data gets processed there; I have the multi-card reader at mine for the GPS stuff.
jalbrz, post: 448548, member: 11371 wrote: Any advice on how to convince a CAD tech to follow your advice Mark?
You are trying to get a CAD tech to do a Surveyor's job. I would reserve the raw data to myself, or to a designated survey tech. I (or the survey tech) would run the raw data, reduce it to coordinates, and pass the csv file to the CAD tech. I always say that if the data is correct it takes 5 minutes to run it through StarNet (or the software of your choice), and if it's not right whatever time spent correcting it is worth it.
Mark Mayer, post: 448569, member: 424 wrote: You are trying to get a CAD tech to do a Surveyor's job. I would reserve the raw data to myself, or to a designated survey tech. I (or the survey tech) would run the raw data, reduce it to coordinates, and pass the csv file to the CAD tech. I always say that if the data is correct it takes 5 minutes to run it through StarNet (or the software of your choice), and if it's not right whatever time spent correcting it is worth it.
He's not processing any data, but the way our workflow is, he is expected to make progress on modeling before we've even processed static GNSS sessions. He is expected to take our points and linework from TBC and into AEC Standard compliant models/sheets. People expect instant gratification around here, so after one day onsite he will get 9 hours worth of topo and control data but on an assumed system. Then by next day, 4+ hours of static days processed via CORS. Same each day until complete, and then once Final orbits are available I process GNSS via CORS or occupation of a published vertical control mark. He does calculate volumes, in C3D, or MicroStation, but I'll have already done the same in TBC (quick, easy, smooth) so I see his calcs as a good check.
FWIW, I guess on some level I agree with you, as I had recommended to my supervisor that we hire a survey technician for this role, but she wouldn't hear it.
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