I don't post often at all, but I'm here all day every day - enough to know that a recurring theme here is how difficult it is to follow a surveyor who thought that halfway was good enough or who didn't have the skills to know the difference. We've all followed those guys. It's maddening. And one of the greatest challenges is trying to explain to the client why they should be willing to pay what may be a huge fee to correct something done by another licensed member of the surveying community. He'd be crazy to hire someone to do this survey without looking into what's required. Not all surveyors are good at what they do - no matter how long they've been licensed. I'll agree that his phrasing rubbed me the wrong way, but his intent seems reasonable to me.
YOUR ATTENTION, PLEASE
> AK is Alaska
> AR is Arkansas
> AZ is Arizona
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> You know how your teeth hurt when you hear someone dragging their fingernails across a chalkboard?
If it ain't in Texas, I don't really edit myself. We in Texas are in a world of our own. There, I said it.
I stand corrected. Thanks Mr. Cow.
Norman,
You nailed EXACTLY what I really wanted to say, but just didn't have time to yesterday.
Kinda like, if you start out a relationship with an awful handshake... things can go awry from the get-go.
Carl
OK, now he is a deleted user.
Whats real? Was this a troll? Was this a regular surveyor, posing this question? We may never know.
But, he did pose some interesting questions.
It did provoke some discussion!
(What if we find out later it was Lucas?) HA!
N
Well... That sure escalated quickly...
I'll bet that he sent Wendell or Angel a private message that didn't meet their muster of "friendly". From his answers he didn't seem too trollish, but also knew just enough to be dangerous and professed to be distrusting of EVERYBODY, which sure did start him out on the wrong foot.
And that's all I'ma gonna say about that...
> That's my opinion. As I grow older I have noticed that the one common element in all my dysfunctional relationships is me. How's by you?
Damn! you too?
Trust
Just a casual observation regarding successful working relationships, heck, all relationships really for that matter. Trust is the key element in success. Not blind trust but earned trust. It's been the key element in my success. If you look at the most successful people, they surround themselves with people they can trust to accomplish a task or confide in. No need to micromanage, no need to second guess every course of action, but simply if I give this person a task, I can trust that they will find the best solution to carry it out. It sometimes takes years to build, and can be destroyed in seconds. But those we can trust, are our greatest assets.
I feel sorry for this individual that they find themselves unable to trust anyone. It is a regrettable circumstance and not one geared towards success, in any shape or form.
Carry on.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
Trust is a funny thing...
In my mind trusting another person (or process) involves going with their thoughts or actions without actually agreeing or understanding them at that moment. And it is actually something that is built little by little over a period of time. By this definition I can understand why a lot people aren't more trusting.
So in a nutshell, how can someone trust a surveyor they've never met?
Simply put, they can't. Where new clients place their trust is in your professionalism, previous work and your demeanor. A greater trust can then be generated after some initial work or relations.
That is why a "good name" is so important in this business.
Trust is a funny thing...
I could not agree more Paden.
.”The chief lesson I have learned in a long life is that the only way to make a man trustworthy is to trust him; and the surest way to make him untrustworthy is to distrust him and show your distrust.”
~Henry L. Stimson
I won't be remembered for all the promises I have kept, but rather for the one I broke.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
Trust and Lack Thereof
Agreed, however, if I trust my community to value integrity and the rule of law and then get burned, say even convicted of the very crime that was committed against me, and well founded, documented and inarguable complaints to the authorities are dismissed out of hand and lawyers run away from such a case like spanked children, if community leaders make openly clear that they value control over others, abuse, over fairness and justice, if no one wants to believe the truth and if we continue to enforce and enable such abuse by voting for those who we should know are abusive personalities, exactly, whose problem is that?
I don't know what happened to Deleted User, and maybe this is his problem, but I've also witnessed more than enough injustice and the hands of so-called "business men" and the authorities to understand when a person has good reason to distrust most.
I suppose what I'm saying here is let us be those who earn trust and not give anyone reason to count us among those who would betray such trust.
My 2 cents, FWIW.
Trust is a funny thing...
I absolutely agree. I have often said pretty much the same thing about respect.
You can treat someone with respect for many reasons but true respect has to be earned.
James
Trust?
The real question is:
What do you do when you suffer; from trusting someone?
It's easy when you surround yourself with people you trust; you each accomplish your tasks with little resistance and ease. But what happens when things go awry? What is your definition of awry; and far do you let it go?
Very little, matters, what happens today. What really matters; is what happens tomorrow.
Life is 1 percent what happens to us and 99 percent how we react to it.
Your reactions may very well vary....B-)
Dougie
Trust
Never trust a crazy person.
One must be crazy to be a surveyor.
So, ....never let them know your crazy.
Part of selling the property is showing the MAN what you are selling (warranting it).
Part of the purchase is knowing what you are paying for.
1.8 or 1.92---which is it?
Did you mean wouldn't under estimate?