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how are you going to survey that?

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jimcox
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New Zealand is sometimes called "The Shaky Isles"

We have some survey monuments on our Alpine fault moving at around 40mm per year

And this last weekend we had a big (7.1) quake

There have been some significant ground shifts...

Note the tyre tracks - and that shelter belt was originally a striaght line

Just how well would your cadastral system cope?


 
Posted : September 8, 2010 9:07 pm
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Sometimes you just have to play it where it lies or in this case, where it is today.


 
Posted : September 8, 2010 11:13 pm
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Presumably in your area you have laws dealing with how to handle earthquake caused movement as they do in California?


 
Posted : September 9, 2010 4:48 am
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Thats quite a shift there.


 
Posted : September 9, 2010 5:00 am
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Throw all of the error into the abyss?
:-O

:coffee: :coffee:


 
Posted : September 9, 2010 6:16 am

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Hell, that sounds great. You can't be wrong. Just set a rod where you feel is good and if a question comes up, blame it on the quake. 🙂


 
Posted : September 9, 2010 7:13 am
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maybe NZ needs some HTDP software...


 
Posted : September 9, 2010 8:48 am
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I haven't seen an answer yet. Not sure even a local grid would gracefully deal with that kind of shift. Any measuring tool could measure the shift, but not sure how to handle the random coordinate shifts in the record.
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Posted : September 9, 2010 10:30 am
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how are you going to survey that? Deal with it

We had same issues with our 2002 7.9 magnitude. Had some 10 meter shifts, and it was in a "populated" (for Alaska standards) area.

2002 Alaska Denali Fault Quake


 
Posted : September 9, 2010 1:39 pm
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> Not sure even a local grid would gracefully deal with that kind of shift. Any measuring tool could measure the shift, but not sure how to handle the random coordinate shifts in the record.

I think they are still working it out

But in NZ, the boundaries are defined by momunents, not by coordinates.

The cadastral syetm is built around their relative, not absolute, positions - ie think vectors between. So I dont think its actually going to be too big an issue


 
Posted : September 9, 2010 4:35 pm