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Florida's "checklist" used to determine de-regulation

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(@macheteman)
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Governor Scott & POTUS agreed to this?

I'm hearing this is Governor Scott & the President's policy, agreeing to deregulate to bring more business to Florida.

I suspected this might have White House ties ...

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 12:06 pm
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Governor Scott & POTUS agreed to this?

We're walking the fine line of P&R with all these threads, but democrats voted 5-0 against advancing this bill. You don't think the White House could have gotten one lowly state representative on board if they were behind this?

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 12:12 pm
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Hard to believe, I know ...

Considering that Dennis Kucinich and a number of other Liberal Democrats are talking about impeaching him, it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Google is a part of the White House. They want to be able to make broad-based decisions with everyone's land, whether it be "environmental" concerns, issues of "fairness", or private land grabs for the "public good", because Google Maps say so, without interference from the Courts.

Look at Eric Schmidt's recent comments, his opinions say it all.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 12:44 pm
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Florida's "checklist" - the votes

I had no idea of the content of the 2009 test until around October 2008. Frankly, I didn't care anything about going down there, because it's a LONG way from home. After I failed it, I had no plans on going back. My boss asked me to go back, so I did.

Also, part of the reason I failed the test in the first place was because my daddy had terminal lung cancer and would end up dying 2 weeks after the test.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 1:48 pm
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Florida's "checklist" - the votes

> sorry, Tommy, I shouldn't take my frustration out on you. If you don't think this issue is a big deal, then good for you. Florida is just another frame on your wall, but it's a hell of a lot more than that to me. It still is a tough test, and I felt damn lucky to pass it the first time I took it, essay problem and all. best of luck to you.

Frankly, I think everyone is over-reacting a bit. I don't think there is anyway the surveyors get deregulated down there. Now, that doesn't mean I think y'all don't need to keep the pressure on, because as soon as you let up, it will get taken away. I just don't see it happening.

As far as the test goes, trust me, it's easy. I don't think the smartest guy out there, but I think I am fairly intelligent. I did very little studying prior to 1 week before the test. I was very well prepared, but still, anyone can be prepared, especially with several months notice.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 2:00 pm
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Hard to believe, I know ...

Truth is stranger than fiction..........

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 4:06 pm
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The bill also eliminates the Division of Condominiums, Timeshares, and Mobile Homes as well as five professional boards. The bill has a negative fiscal impact on state trust funds, with a corresponding reduction in expenditures. The bill has a positive fiscal impact on the private sector. See fiscal comments.

The bill has an effective date of July 1, 2011, unless otherwise noted.

Here are the fiscal comments of what I was able to pull from them:

"The PCB will reduce overhead costs for 167,919 currently licensed or registered private sector occupations and businesses by $30,017,332 associated with opening certain businesses or entering certain professions. This is the direct result of removing requirements for various professionals and businesses to pay various fees and to submit applications and disclosures. There may be additional savings to the private sector in the futures as emerging practitioners and businesses are not required to pay these fees."

The Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services regulates Business Opportunities, Charitable Organizations, Dance Studios, Health Studios, Motor Vehicle repair Shops, Interstate Movers, Sellers of Travel. Telemarketing, Water Vending Machines and us. All of these entities are included in this proposed bill and combined, are estimated to have an anticipated negative fiscal impact to state trust fund revenues associated with the fees collected for license, fines, and penalties estimated at $21,577,319. There is also a positive fiscal impact to state trust funds associated with the costs to administer the regulatory functions of $13,930,063. The net negative fiscal impact to state trust funds $4,854,943. There are 136 full time equivalent employees currently performing the licensing, education and testing, investigation, and enforcement functions within the agency. If this legislation is passed it is estimated that 44 Division of Consumer Services employees will be cut and 75 positions will be cut from the Call Center.

So, this is all about money.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 5:57 pm
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Libertarianism where might makes right. The new fascism.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 6:36 pm
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> The bill also eliminates the Division of Condominiums, Timeshares, and Mobile Homes as well as five professional boards. The bill has a negative fiscal impact on state trust funds, with a corresponding reduction in expenditures. The bill has a positive fiscal impact on the private sector. See fiscal comments.
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> The bill has an effective date of July 1, 2011, unless otherwise noted.
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> Here are the fiscal comments of what I was able to pull from them:
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> "The PCB will reduce overhead costs for 167,919 currently licensed or registered private sector occupations and businesses by $30,017,332 associated with opening certain businesses or entering certain professions. This is the direct result of removing requirements for various professionals and businesses to pay various fees and to submit applications and disclosures. There may be additional savings to the private sector in the futures as emerging practitioners and businesses are not required to pay these fees."
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> The Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services regulates Business Opportunities, Charitable Organizations, Dance Studios, Health Studios, Motor Vehicle repair Shops, Interstate Movers, Sellers of Travel. Telemarketing, Water Vending Machines and us. All of these entities are included in this proposed bill and combined, are estimated to have an anticipated negative fiscal impact to state trust fund revenues associated with the fees collected for license, fines, and penalties estimated at $21,577,319. There is also a positive fiscal impact to state trust funds associated with the costs to administer the regulatory functions of $13,930,063. The net negative fiscal impact to state trust funds $4,854,943. There are 136 full time equivalent employees currently performing the licensing, education and testing, investigation, and enforcement functions within the agency. If this legislation is passed it is estimated that 44 Division of Consumer Services employees will be cut and 75 positions will be cut from the Call Center.
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> So, this is all about money.

As I stated in a previous post SELF REGULATION, MAKE THE PROPOSAL TO THE LEGISLATURE. PRONTO!

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 6:42 pm
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I'm hearing the Surveyor Board budget had a surplus. It wasn't us that was creating cost on the State.

If anything, I believe we were deliberately lumped in with the other less-than-essential regulated businesses so as to mask the true intent.

Surveyors, Landscape Architects, Geologists? All these professions deal with LAND. There is more to it than just money...

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 6:43 pm
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> I'm hearing the Surveyor Board budget had a surplus. It wasn't us that was creating cost on the State.
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> If anything, I believe we were deliberately lumped in with the other less-than-essential regulated businesses so as to mask the true intent.
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> Surveyors, Landscape Architects, Geologists? All these professions deal with LAND. There is more to it than just money...

Check the whole post, it's about laying off state employees. That's where they plan to save money, which provides an opening for the Land Surveyors to propose self regulation (in other words you'll take over the duties of the state employees). Maybe even propose to hire some of them.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 6:49 pm
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Hard to believe, I know ...

There's always going to be the "professional left" who scream when things aren't liberal enough for them, including Obama not being far enough to the left. Despite the nonsense rhetoric making Obama out to be the next Karl Marx, he's actually nowhere near the far left.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 7:19 pm
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Excellent suggestion.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 7:53 pm
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> So, this is all about money.

In that case, I need to find out how to apply for a refund on that license renewal I just got. It appears as if I got short changed on my renewal if it only lasts 4 months and then becomes worthless.

Time to call the class action lawfirm...

Dear State of Florida,
This letter serves as notification that as a result of your reckless and negligent alteration of the state statutes, all 3000+ professional surveyors and mappers would like a pro-rata refund of the unfulfilled portions of their professional license fees which you willfully canceled within 45 days of renewal. Had you notified our client prior to their license renewal date that you had intentions of altering the statutes and making their licenses null and void within 45 days of the biennial renewal date, NONE of our clients in "the class" would have wasted time renewing their licenses.

Signed,
Cheatem and Payup, P.A.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 8:03 pm
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I doubt it's about money. That's just an excuse to pass a "feel good" Republican bill.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 8:21 pm
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I like it too.

 
Posted : March 21, 2011 8:28 pm
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Sort of like the Democratic health care bill.

 
Posted : March 22, 2011 4:47 am
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The categories etc., were probably derived from information gathered and digested by committee staff.

Chances are they did not look into the history of the regulation of these professions.

 
Posted : March 22, 2011 12:06 pm
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