Today I noticed stakes marked for new power poles and anchors along the street by our church. One anchor would go about a foot and a half from a lot corner monument (rebar). I set some nails for ties to check later if it gets disturbed.
Should I flag it and hope they arent mean enough to show me what they can do to spite me? Or keep it covered and unflagged?
Bill93, post: 362135, member: 87 wrote: Today I noticed stakes marked for new power poles and anchors along the street by our church. One anchor would go about a foot and a half from a lot corner monument (rebar). I set some nails for ties to check later if it gets disturbed.
Should I flag it and hope they arent mean enough to show me what they can do to spite me? Or keep it covered and unflagged?
I think I would also take some pictures. Hard to argue with visuals.
Contact the utility and ask for a design change.
Operators usually zero in on flagged objects and start digging there.
A tpost guard wod work best.
Bill93, post: 362135, member: 87 wrote: Today I noticed stakes marked for new power poles and anchors along the street by our church. One anchor would go about a foot and a half from a lot corner monument (rebar). I set some nails for ties to check later if it gets disturbed.
Should I flag it and hope they arent mean enough to show me what they can do to spite me? Or keep it covered and unflagged?
I would leave it covered and be sure to have a good location on it. My experience has been that the utility companies are going to put it wherever they want.
Property corners around here are like magnets for utility companies. On the residential surveys all you have to do to find the corners is look for telephone pedestals or transformers and start digging.
Bill93, post: 362135, member: 87 wrote: Today I noticed stakes marked for new power poles and anchors along the street by our church. One anchor would go about a foot and a half from a lot corner monument (rebar). I set some nails for ties to check later if it gets disturbed.
Should I flag it and hope they arent mean enough to show me what they can do to spite me? Or keep it covered and unflagged?
If your power company is like the one here, it you flag it up, that is EXACTLY where the anchor will go!
Ken
Since you already have ties to it I would still flag it up with a "pigpen" With do not disturb/survey property corner written on the lath and hope for the best. B-)
Stake out your chihuahua/St. Bernard-cross on a short lease. That attitude mixed with that size should discourage disturbing anything in her (females are the meanest) reach.
FL/GA PLS., post: 362191, member: 379 wrote: Since you already have ties to it I would still flag it up with a "pigpen" With do not disturb/survey property corner written on the lath and hope for the best. B-)
I like this one. Also leave a note quoting the law and amount of fine for destruction of property monumentation. See what happens :whistle:
This is an issue that is getting a lot of attention here in California. And a lot of responsibility is being put on the local agency (i.e. County) to ensure that monuments are perpetuated. The problem is that a lot of these utility companies don't have a PLS on staff that oversees these sorts of projects. So a lot of these projects where there are just resetting poles for a line there isn't anyone keeping an eye out for damaging or destroying a monument, even though many of the private utility companies have similar responsibilities as government agencies since they operate under the laws of the PUC.
The anchor is in and well away from the corner iron. I did put a very short stick with a note in a plastic bag by it. I happened to be there when a crew came around to evaluate the situation. Due to the location of underground cables they decided to not use the original staked location. Perhaps my note influenced their second choice. The cables were such a problem they had a vacuum excavator dig the holes.
The screwdriver marks the corner iron.
For that one I would use a segment of orange underground pipe as a liner around a 5/8 inch rebar monument for insulation and to cammo to look like a utility.
I've found that a 1 inch orange gas pipe will cover a 5/8 inch rebar and my orange cap will fit on the rebar and seal off the pipe and in appearance look like a stub out.
Cap both ends of a prefab setup of your desired length and hand bore a 1 1/4 inch hole and if you don't hit anything, insert your monument.
That underground electric wire is inside a 4in pvc and is supposed to be over 30in deep.
Fill 24in section of 3/4 inch orange or yellow or other color pipe with liquid nails and attach your cap to the top affixed to a 60d nail or mag nail or 6in of rebar.
:gammon:
You might try some of this Waterproof Paper. Write on it, with a pen:
"There is a property Pin, beneath this paper. The cost to replace it is $ 800.00. I have taken pictures of this situation. And, if after the pole is installed, my property pin is DISTURBED in any way, I will forward this COST to the utility company, responsible for the installation of this pole. If the utility company does not re-reimburse me in a timely fashion, then they will ALSO be liable for ANY and ALL litigation to secure this money.
We could also put a bond on it.....
Then, tack the paper either to a little piece of coraplast, or to a piece of plywood. And, attach it to the ground, via a stake, or suitable device.
🙂
N
Around here (Portland, Oregon) it is illegal to disturb or destroy prperty monuments. The utility compnay would need a PLS to reference and or replace the corner. That being said, does it always get done that way, I doubt it.
joe
