The ways of the blunder are many, and varied.
Now I have to make a new sign to hang in my office.
The Align command in Civil 3D is one of my favorites. If you setup on 1 and BS the bogus 2, you should just have a rotational error. If you resected off those two, good luck!
not sure why i would assume the deviation would still be an issue
Any time you constrain yourself to 1 point there is no way to detect a blunder, that is why it didn't give you any warning.
I would speak to the surveyor supervising this project. Folks here gave a lot of great advice on the technical aspects of solving this problem, but I still think you should talk to your supervising surveyor about this.
He or she will show you how THEY want it fixed, and what records to create and notes to make.
It should be the first place employees go. I couldn’t succeed as a mentor if those under my supervision went to the internet instead of me.
Thanks all for the useful info.
I'm just a hobbyist and this project was for my building at work. All I have for the building are outdated AutoCAD drawings with wrong dimensions. The hope is to remeasure out specific sections of the building when I add new equipment. (ran into an issue the other day by trusting the drawings which were so far off I lost 4 feet of bench space)
So no supervisor to help me and I'm self taught through manuals and Rami Tamimi's YouTube series lol. I think my rotate and move linearly in AutoCAD is giving me the correct results. One of these days when its slow Ill go back out to the monuments and reshoot my traverse and my control points inside the building. Then if I get different measurements I can align from there.
not sure why I would assume the deviation would still be an issue
Any time you constrain yourself to 1 point there is no way to detect a blunder, that is why it didn't give you any warning.
Wouldn't the horizontal distance be different? or during known point setup is it just setting the azimuth?
The Align command in Civil 3D is one of my favorites. If you setup on 1 and BS the bogus 2, you should just have a rotational error. If you resected off those two, good luck!
I tried the realign but since I put in the wrong easting the distance is incorrect from my expected points. either way I think the rotate and move is working correctly
@glasscake You can't just edit the point's coords. You have to go into the raw data and change the coords entered there to the correct ones. This will recalc all of the coords for that set up. If you have subsequent set ups based on the bad coords, you have to go and change the raw data entry to the correct coords for each set up. Example you have bad coords for the 1st set up and traverse through 8 other points/setups. Even though you fixed the 1st set up raw data coords, Survey pro will not put the correct coords for the 2nd set up in the raw data. You have to edit each subsequent set up. Editing it in the coordinate file will have no effect. It must be edited in the raw data file for each occupied point.
I think I may have done something wrong in Survey Pro then. In SP I go to "View/Edit Raw Data" then go to the "Key in" for my bad control point, right click point and "edit point data" put in the correct cord and there is no change. I also tired "Fix Station Setup" under "adjust" and when I did that it said no points were reliant on my bad control point?
Huh? I've only very briefly used surveypro and my memory is foggy, but this isn't making sense to me. It sounds like it warned you your backsight was bad, but for whatever reason you went ahead with the setup.
To be honest I was rushing and I didn't read into why the warning was showing up. I just assumed (ass out of u and me) the deviation was because I put in an elevation of 100 for each monument because supplied docs did not have elevation.
Wouldn't the horizontal distance be different? or during known point setup is it just setting the azimuth?
If you told it to use 1 point and an azimuth, there is no distance to compare to. The only way the data collector program is getting a distance to compare is by inversing the 2 coordinate pairs. If you use 2 points it will calc the azimuth and the distance between the 2 points. When you use only 1 point there is not a distance to another point, only an infinite direction.
