?ÿA gun store in town who I am friends with the owners are having to relocate because the landlord is forcing them out by tripling the rent so he can turn it into an urgent care may be in need of a survey for their new location.
It is gonna be a basic radius point type survey showing the distance from the front door to the nearest school property.
Has anyone done anything like this? What are the specifics?
It seems to be an AT requirement.
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Distance can be defined in various ways.?ÿ Does their rule say direct line distance from property corner to property corner, direct door to door, distance as a person would walk from door to door, or something else??ÿ I know some liquor store ordinances use the walking distance, but nothing is uniform.
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The owners are trying to get the info in writing but they were told it was from the front door of the store to the nearest property cornerline.
I have seen the distance be the distance between the properties, the closest property corners or lines.
Ed
I know of a few places that wanted to sell alcohol, they were very close to the minimal require distance, some just had to move the door to the other side of the building, some had to face the building to another street, one did a complete redesign, there must be a lot of money in gas stations selling beer and wine.?ÿ?ÿ
I've done quite a few of these types of surveys over the years.?ÿ Most of them were liquor store/adult video/church/school separation issues.?ÿ One was a car dealership that had to maintain a certain distance from another due to a non-competition clause in a contract.?ÿ Another was an ordinance that required dry-cleaners (wtf?) to be no closer that 1500' to each other.
The real definition is in the governing municipality's ordinances.?ÿ Some say property (as in the closest corner), some say the closest point of the structure.?ÿ Quite a few of them are ambiguous as to the actual points to measure between.?ÿ And at least one city official told me that ambiguity was by design...it left it up to the City Council to decide whether they wanted to?ÿgive their approval or not.?ÿ
Direct inverse on state plane or geodetic?
Depending where you are, this is something to consider.
I've had to do this for check?ÿ cashing?ÿ businesses and the geodetic was roughly 7 feet different than a direct inverse.
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I've had to do this for check?ÿ cashing?ÿ businesses and the geodetic was roughly 7 feet different than a direct inverse.
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What do you mean by direct inverse or geodetic distance? I am sure the appropriate distance would be the ground distance. Not many law making bodies even realise there is any other kind of distance.
If your distances are long enough for there to be 7 feet of difference between methods then I think you can be assured you are far enough away.?ÿ
There are all kinds of ways to define the points and path, but I don't see how the distance for a defined path of this order can be 7 ft different depending on geodetic vs SPC or any other method.
What do you mean by "direct inverse"?
I?ÿdon't think I'd?ÿwant to be the one to state the separation is exactly one foot (or seven) beyond the required distance whether?ÿalong the?ÿgeodetic arc or as the crow flies and wind up lynched by a mob of blue hair old?ÿchurch ladies.
...?ÿand wind up lynched by a mob of blue hair old?ÿchurch ladies.
They're out there...
It can differ from jurisdiction of state to state.
Texas it is defined as the distance from the front door to a point on the r/w of highway or street at the perpendicular, then down the r/w to point perpendicular to door of church or school and then the distance to that door all added together for the distance requirement.
...?ÿand wind up lynched by a mob of blue hair old?ÿchurch ladies.
They're out there...
Looks like an advertisement FOR Whiskey!!!
It is my understanding that this is a ATF requirement and it is a simple straight line from front door to the nearest apparent property line or corner of school property.
I guess the states can make stricter requirements, I suppose. As imsaid in the first post?ÿ they are tryin to find the written requirements.?ÿ
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