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Richard Imrie, post: 434957, member: 11256 wrote: A naive question here, but if the monuments or other physical control marks are at the property boundary corners or on the boundary lines, then what is the correct procedure for installing a fence and preserving (if necessary) those marks? Presumably the owner/installer does not want to set the fence say 0.5' back inside the property to avoid disturbing the marks, thereby "gifting" some land to the opposition.

I have seen line posts set about 1 foot from the lot corner, but that is rare.
Sometimes there are lead and tacks with tags set on top of masonry walls... pretty common in San Diego county a decade ago.

this is the US Federal government method: Border Monument No.258 - N 32?ø 32.072' W 117?ø 07.36


 
Posted : July 2, 2017 6:54 pm
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I stake property lines for fences at least once a week. It's either that or for landscaping. Of course my jobs are smaller lots, around an acre or so. We have a postcard mailer that asks "Do you know where your property lines are located?" and we send it out to new home buyers each month.


 
Posted : July 3, 2017 11:01 am
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Peter Ehlert, post: 434982, member: 60 wrote: I have seen line posts set about 1 foot from the lot corner, but that is rare.
Sometimes there are lead and tacks with tags set on top of masonry walls... pretty common in San Diego county a decade ago.

this is the US Federal government method: Border Monument No.258 - N 32?ø 32.072' W 117?ø 07.36

I'm assuming the dog is on the Mexico side of La Frontera. It is, after all, looking hungry, meek and facing to the left. I would imagine had it been on this side of the wall it might be a little better fed, a whole lot more aggressive, a different color (possibly an orange hue) and distinctly facing right...


 
Posted : July 3, 2017 1:12 pm
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The dog had me baffled, but that explains it, and is very funny.


 
Posted : July 3, 2017 1:20 pm
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foggyidea, post: 435049, member: 155 wrote: I stake property lines for fences at least once a week. It's either that or for landscaping. Of course my jobs are smaller lots, around an acre or so. We have a postcard mailer that asks "Do you know where your property lines are located?" and we send it out to new home buyers each month.

Interesting idea. Do you get a mailing list from a local real estate group? Do you feel like you get a pretty good bang for your buck and good exposure doing this?


 
Posted : July 3, 2017 1:25 pm

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I.e....

paden cash, post: 435074, member: 20 wrote: I'm assuming the dog is on the Mexico side of La Frontera. It is, after all, looking hungry, meek and facing to the left. I would imagine had it been on this side of the wall it might be a little better fed, a whole lot more aggressive, a different color (possibly an orange hue) and distinctly facing right...

Monuments are always on the Mexico side, at least the dozen or so I have seen. This one is very unusual. Google the coordinates and see


 
Posted : July 3, 2017 1:49 pm
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Peter Ehlert, post: 435090, member: 60 wrote: I.e....

Monuments are always on the Mexico side, at least the dozen or so I have seen. This one is very unusual. Google the coordinates and see

sorry, that was an old photo and I did not recognize it.... it was taken from the US side, probably about 25 years old, and the dog is in Tijuana. We don't see many mangy street dogs these days.
Today it looks like this (viewed from Mexico). It is a beautiful monument, too bad Americans can't get close enough to view it without crossing over. "Friendship Park" is still "public" but it is withing your "restricted zone" and DHS blocks access.


 
Posted : July 4, 2017 8:05 am
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Peter Ehlert, post: 434728, member: 60 wrote: Location and local custom is everything. In the West surveys for fencing is super rare, I can hardly remember any in my more than 40 years of practice.

Who would "require" surveys? It is a Private Matter, no government intervention is needed or desired.
Sure, in many cases it would be very wise, but that is something for individuals to decide. Everyone should assess their personal risk tolerance.

No Government intervention may be required where you practice but here in NJ the majority of the municipalities require a zoning permit to erect or replace a fence in anything other than agricultural uses. To obtain that permit you must present a current survey (less than a year old) with the application package. I would say that I do on average 3 or 4 of these surveys a week and stake the property lines. Most of my work is done in residential subdivisions in a semi urbanized area. I often get calls from my friends and neighbors to stake fence lines as well.


 
Posted : July 4, 2017 9:02 am
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Richard Imrie, post: 434957, member: 11256 wrote: A naive question here, but if the monuments or other physical control marks are at the property boundary corners or on the boundary lines, then what is the correct procedure for installing a fence and preserving (if necessary) those marks? Presumably the owner/installer does not want to set the fence say 0.5' back inside the property to avoid disturbing the marks, thereby "gifting" some land to the opposition.

Unfortunately most people don't take a logical approach, especially when their neighbors are the reason they want the fence. Everybody wants to go right down the property line without stopping to think that at some point in time they will need to maintain that fence and will cause themselves more hassles when they have to access it by walking on their neighbor's property.


 
Posted : July 4, 2017 9:15 am
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