I'm writing a letter to a client, who happens to be an attorney, about some monuments I found for him this morning and their relationship to adjoining fence corners. It seems funny to say 0.8 feet, but 0.8 foot doesn't sound right. I'm gonna say feet unless somebody convinces me I'm wrong. On a map you just put the foot mark and it doesn't matter if it's one foot or multiple feet, so I don't think about this every day.
0.8 feet
or
Eight tenths of a foot
For your purposes, use "feet".
ft. or ' 🙂
There are some weird rules regarding feet and foot. I remember looking into this when someone asked me to change "20-foot wide" to "20 feet wide". Some references said either was considered correct, while others said only "foot" was correct.
In this case, "0.8 feet" sounds correct, but you're talking about a fraction of a single (none plural) foot, so I'm not sure.
Anyway, glad I can help!
Label it 0'-9 5/8" ( 0.8 tenths of a foot )..or ten inches if you put it that way, he will understand the inch value and the 0.8' in parenthesis will match your map.
I'll answer with a question. What is singular and what is plural and when is each applicable?
FWIW, I use feet for everything.
I've wondered the same thing when refering to a 25' wide easement for example. I use "25 foot" wide easement, mostly because that's what people say when they're talking. I would say "feet" in your case... or maybe 0.80 ft. as a copout.
I like Evan's answer because it agrees with me.;-)
I see what you're saying, Paul, but the map these corners were set on shows fence ties to the tenths and they were all incorrect so the purpose of my letter is to state what the map says versus what I actually measured this morning.
Disclaimer: I also state in my letter that although the monuments appear undisturbed and the fences appear undisturbed since the map was recorded in 2006, I didn't perform any measurements between them to confirm the map dimensions or arrive at any conclusions regarding the methods used to determine the boundary shown on the map. Weasly? Maybe so, but that's all I did.
Side note for CA surveyors: I still haven't figured out why this map was done. It is a one-parcel Parcel Map for a residential lot. If it was a legal parcel, I don't know why they needed to do a Parcel Map and if it was a portion of a larger legal parcel, there ought to be another parcel or at least a remainder shown, but there isn't.
P.S. Edit: Sometimes I say "25-foot easement" but usually I say "An easement, 25 feet in width".
> There are some weird rules regarding feet and foot. I remember looking into this when someone asked me to change "20-foot wide" to "20 feet wide". Some references said either was considered correct, while others said only "foot" was correct.
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Pseudo's right about the weird rules.
The "20-foot wide" would be proper as an adjective as in a "20-foot wide easement." "20 feet wide" would be proper as in "an easement being 20 feet wide" or "an easement being 20 feet in width."
When it comes to something less than a foot, such as a "0.8 feet" it's pronounced "zero point eight feet" not "zero point eight foot." If it were written as "eight-tenths of a foot" that would be appropriate, but to say that "0.8" is pronounced "eight-tenths" would not be correct.
Same thing applies to a 0.8-acre parcel.
JBS
Even one?
JBS - Obviously you wouldn't pronounce "feet" as "foot" but maybe since it is expressed in decimal numbers, it is proper to say "0.8 feet" even though it's only a portion of one foot. Which seems contrary to the way we say "0.8 acre", why isn't is "0.8 acres", or maybe it is. I'm going home now, I'm confusing myself.
Good point, Bob. If it was 1.0, I'd probably say "1.0 foot" but I'd probably say "1.5 feet".
feet or foot? _ Steve
> I see what you're saying, Paul, but the map these corners were set on shows fence ties to the tenths and they were all incorrect so...
By how much Steve?
>.. If it was a legal parcel, I don't know why they needed to do a Parcel Map and if it was a portion of a larger legal parcel, there ought to be another parcel or at least a remainder shown, but there isn't.
How about posting the map or a link to the map Steve.
My daughter which is an English Teacher, say the rule is if you are stating a measurement you made it is always feet (except for 1 foot). If you are talking about the width or size of something then the rule get alot more complicated.
The good Lord knows ...
that I don't know English grammar very well, can't spell worth beans, but here's the way I use the 2 versions in the same document when I am writing a metes and bounds description. Now I know that a lot of y'all don't know what a description is, but in my corner of the world, we do.
So I start out the description by saying ...
The following is the metes and bounds description of a 10,283 square foot lot located .....
then we go through all those metes and bounds, and conclude with
..... to the beginning enclosing an area of 10,283 square feet as shown on a plat by .....
So, in the first part I'm using the word foot as an adjective describing a parcel
At the end I'm using the word feet as a noun telling you how large the parcel is.
Now I'm not going to answer the original question, but maybe this will help someone understand the difference.
Bob
You don't use decimals? 1.00 feet. 1 foot.
Dave
You need a hyphen
10,000-square foot lot
10,000 square feet.
25-acre tract
25 acres
Bob
I agree with Kris and AZLS.
1.0 feet or 1 foot
It is all about semantics. Don't consider the singular versus plural scenario. Use the common rules or wording scenarios that Pseudo and JBS gave examples of.
feet or foot? Paul
At the northwest corner the map said the fence corner was "1.5' South & 1.5' East of property corner" The fence corner measured 1.0' South & 0.4' West of the rebar.
I don't have my notes with me but the southeast corner said something like "fence intersection 0.4' North & 0.3' East of property corner" but the fence corner measured 0.2' West of the rebar.
Stuff like that. Not feet off or anything but bad enough that it had me digging in the wrong place for a while before I lost faith in their notations.
At the northeast corner, they found an OLD 2" tagged pipe that my dad had found and accepted as the corner of the property to the east in 1976. That happens to be the common corner between this attorney's current house parcel and the 1/2 acre he's buying. They called that pipe 1.07' South of the property corner. If you can picture this, they called out the fence corner as 0.5' South and 0.9' East of the property corner, the pipe as 1.07' South of the property corner, so you would think the pipe would be 0.5' South & 0.9' West of the fence corner, right? NOT, it was in the fence corner so tight I couldn't get my fingers in there through the chain link to tie flagging on it. For some reason there was a PK nail in the dirt where I would have expected the pipe to be from their fence ties. It was so close in to the fence corner I couldn't tell if there was something big underneath it with the metal detector so it was bye-bye PK, nothing there anyway.
Bob
I'm just saying, that if my I-Man was trying to put me on line, and he said "One feet left" I'd chuckle. Maybe it's a regional thing.