Estimate this

Maybe they want the datum tied to the bridge design datum.

Don't forget highway safety time, river safety time, 3 person crew for the sections, motel costs (110 miles one way) prevailing rate for interstates with Fed money....etc.. also have a F2F system in service, with staff. Is MT a Microstation state??? Better check that out first, the shots and all the rest will come ... 1 day US,1 day at each bridge, 1 day between the bridges, and 1 day DS. This will cover the cost of running control, and the 3rd man when needed. It will not cover your winters and river levels, it looked fairly shallow, but fast. Done a whole bunch of these exact type jobs and fathometer surveys for NY State.

And Make Sure You Have Inland Marine Insurance Coverage

Check with your E&O and business liability carrier.

Paul in PA

if you dont have one contact your local dealer and rent a scanner.

just use Google earth to bring in a bench...:-P

2 days in the field, 1 day office. Control and topo in the field, data processing and editing in the office. Get to work.

4 days field (1 control + 3 topo)
2 office

$8,000 to make a profit

$6,000 if you want it real bad

5 days at $1650 day ten hour days
plus hotel meals at cost
cad 2 days $900 day
travel to from site at $165.00 hr

say $10K as a not to exceed price.
with DTM model +- 0.30 m to dtm

instead they can extract sections as
required.

Its a rip rap fix up so give the tin model to do this
survey would be about 5% of of a $200 k civil rip rap
rock project.

looks like the abutments are the issue for errosion

Mark,

I can have the guys scan them for you on their way to St. Regis tomorrow;-) .

OPUS is easily doable by the Google view. Set up on the NGS point and whatever else you need to get good control on site.

I would then scan it.

Much higher detail of the bridge and an accurate "picture" of the mitigation rip rap.

Should be pretty cheap since you're in the area 😉 I'd be interested in seeing your point cloud for the river bottom...

I say scan it.

I can have myself and scan crew there in 3 days.

While crew scans we can call for a guide at the Grizzly Hackle and float the Clark for some 20" bows.

😀

I am sorry for being off topic...

1 1/2 days. 100k shots. Set up Base on bridge and log data and set GPS control. Set up robotic scanner and scan bridges.

Maybe 3 full days depending, but probably two total. Two days in office. I could do it of 3k and make money, but I'd bid it at 6K and make lots.

> Estimate this project-

I see about 2 days of control work to establish 9 primary points along the highway for the cross sectioning and 4.6 mile level loop.

Then 2 days to do the 9 cross sections.

Then 1 day to topo each bridge area.

So 6 days (60 hrs) field, 60hrs office. So around $12,500 + $1200 total per diem. That's if this was 2007. Today, about 60% of $12,500 - makes $7500 + $1200 per diem - would not be the low bidder.

Really neat to see everyone in the same boat as I am for the basic hours to do this job, at least in the field hours!!!! Used to be one field and one office for the hours! Over the years I have found that even with all the F2F, coding and computer advances in mapping....something happens when it gets inside, even with the PC doing the office end! I use 2 days with one man in the office processing Microstation data, for every 1 day for a 2 man crew collecting data in the field. Maybe that is why I don't like the office!!! Every time I went in they were talking fantasy football, golf, bowling or some other crap. I apoligize up front because I know some folks really like team sports....but not when I'm trying to download or upload if you know what I mean!!!!

Well- since Kurt's hasn't volunteered to do a free scan job

for me- 😉 the crew headed down there today- going to try to do some OPUS while they set out the rest of the control. Our estimates are close to Mark Mayer's- but we'll not run the level loop if the OPUS results are acceptable. We'll also check that with elevations from the CL guard angle at the BE's- I'm thinking that the as-built elevations for each bridge will fit themselves well, but I'm not holding out much hope that the bridges will check into each other. and the horizontal alignment was crap in 1987 when I worked down there on PCCP paving- nothing fit well then- the bridges were built by the "bridgies" and the "dirt people" made the roadway prism hit the end of the BE.

We are going to attempt to do some surface scan with the S6- to see if that application will work. What ever else we do has to happen in a hurry- snow's coming.

PS- Kurt- there's still time to offer MDT a free demo( wink, wink, nudge, nudge)

Well- since Kurt's hasn't volunteered to do a free scan job

We have tried to give a demo and presentation, but obvioulsy haven't talked with the right people. Scanned the rock outcrops in Badrock Canyon last Thursday. We've been monitoring for the last 4 years. This was the first time with the C-10 and it was not as easy as it was with the 3000. They made the scanner easier, but dumbed it down too much, we lost all the control with the loss of the computer interface.

Great technology and enough data to really increase the confidence.

Well- since Kurt's hasn't volunteered to do a free scan job

Kurt- I had pretty good talk with Bryce (mdt not Bryce-Selby's)this afternoon. I'd like to talk w/ you tomorrow, if you're going to be in.

edit- who is your point of contact with the badrock work?

Well- since Kurt's hasn't volunteered to do a free scan job

I'll be in the office. That work is for another company; I can talk to you about that privately.