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Posted : December 11, 2014 8:05 am
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Posted : December 11, 2014 8:39 am
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Bizarre leveling procedure

I just went out to lunch, and saw a DOT crew running levels. Non-digital level, 25' fiberglass rod. Four man crew...rod man, instrument man, party chief/notekeeper, and the fourth guy to hold a six foot folding rule, with the last section bent 90°, on the rod where they i-man was reading.

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 10:12 am
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That just screams efficiency doesn't it!? o.O

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 10:32 am
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> I just went out to lunch, and saw a DOT crew running levels. Non-digital level, 25' fiberglass rod. Four man crew...rod man, instrument man, party chief/notekeeper, and the fourth guy to hold a six foot folding rule, with the last section bent 90°, on the rod where they i-man was reading.

Sounds like the shots are so long the i-man can't read the numbers, so he signals up/down until the crosshairs are on the bent section and the folding rule man reads the numbers.

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 10:35 am
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I had to drive by three times before I could believe what they were doing.

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 10:35 am
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They were 50 feet apart.

And, if you are so far away that you can't read the numbers, you are too far.

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 10:36 am
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:good: :good:

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 10:43 am
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:good:

The only thing I can come up with is this is their third time running this loop because the i-man keeps calling out the wrong foot (e.g. calling 3.9 4.9 because you can see the 4) that someone said they were using the folding rule to verify the readings at the rod before recording/turning. just spitballin'

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 10:57 am
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We usually got around this by "cheating": we would set stakes to turn on, write the TP# on the stake and run across the same ones on the way back. This easily isolate whole foot busts, and a quick check would tell you which observation was the good one.

This was for sewer work, wouldn't work for anything needing to be "official". Did this for a five mile sewer project that was really flat. Before lunch the first day the crews quit asking why GPS wasn't good enough when we found our first .15' bust in the RTK. 🙂

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 11:02 am
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That is kinda what I think...this is a poor reflection on the quality of government survey techs.

I thought that all the DOT districts had digital levels, maybe they only got one each. They do apparently have GPS, as there was a point across the street beside a large metal pole with a high stake marked "GPS 1". I won't even go there about what I see wrong with that....

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 11:04 am
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Most DOTs can't pay enough to attract quality field personnel. The last crew chief I hired was from a DOT and I doubled his pay.

 
Posted : December 11, 2014 11:27 am
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Digital Recording. Post adjusted.

There is a Surveyor in our office (1 of 5) that is fighting us tooth and nail against the need to reduce level runs. I'm pretty sure it's just because he's incredibly lazy and he likes to go against any decision that both the boss and I agree on. The Boss (Survey Manager) isn't in a position to fire him though... so we continue to butt heads with him. On a lot of issues.

 
Posted : December 14, 2014 2:53 pm
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> Most DOTs can't pay enough to attract quality field personnel. The last crew chief I hired was from a DOT and I doubled his pay.

What? A PLS crew chief in California makes $125,000 including benefits when working for the DOT.

 
Posted : December 25, 2014 5:04 pm
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