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cyril-turner
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Sent the crew to an area we normally don't survey in. Property is a piece of land that has been partitioned between three siblings. The original description (from the 1980's) calls for a pipe at the Northwest corner and a pipe at the Northeast corner of the property. The partition deed was done in the early 2000's by a surveyor I've followed before and haven't been too impressed with calls for a pipe at the Northwest corner and a 60d set in the trunk of a twisted mesquite tree. Attached are the pictures of what my crew found.

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Edit: Not sure if anyone can see the images.

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Posted : March 26, 2021 12:26 pm
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No pics posted.


 
Posted : March 26, 2021 12:34 pm
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@chris-bouffard hopefully fixed


 
Posted : March 26, 2021 12:38 pm
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I see part of a foot and a pipe below where a limb had grown out of the tree that wasn't there in the 80's.?ÿ Also see a golden 60D nail in a tree root with flagging wrapped around it.?ÿ Let 'er rip!


 
Posted : March 26, 2021 12:59 pm
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@holy-cow 60d is on the opposite side of the tree from the pipe. Not sure how the previous surveyor determined his location for the 60d but I'm pretty sure he didn't locate the pipe.


 
Posted : March 26, 2021 1:58 pm

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@cyril-turner

Oh.?ÿ I see.?ÿ That's quite a different story then.


 
Posted : March 26, 2021 3:34 pm
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Pipe looks good!!

What nail? I don't see no stinking nail!!!!

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Posted : March 26, 2021 3:55 pm
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How far apart are the two?

ps: Cool Blue Suede shoes! ???? ?ÿ


 
Posted : March 26, 2021 4:23 pm
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@flga-2-2 0.7' from each other which is what the difference was between the original deed call and the partition deed call.


 
Posted : March 26, 2021 5:32 pm
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That IP should have made the Shoenstadt scream.?ÿ


 
Posted : March 27, 2021 1:07 pm

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@rj-schneider

Only if they searched on all sides of the tree and below what appears to be an offshoot directly above the pipe.?ÿ Too many of those searching are inherently lazy people.?ÿ It's far easier to set something than to recover something.?ÿ End of the day or not, searchers should search as though their continued employment depended on it.?ÿ That is the difference between having your license on the line or one held by someone significantly up the ladder within the corporation who you have never met.?ÿ Besides, that's why they pay for a multimillion dollar errors and omissions policy, right? ?????ÿ


 
Posted : March 27, 2021 1:17 pm
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Cow, I'm looking at roughly a 10"-12" Mesquite tree.?ÿ The Shoenstadt works that far away, honestly.

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Edit:?ÿ I do enjoy those neo-feudal tenure rants, though.?ÿ ?????ÿ

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Posted : March 27, 2021 1:36 pm
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The pipe monuments the corner unless you can tell it's been disturbed which it looks like it may have been. The nail,,,,,,,,,,,,,

who sets a nail for a monument?

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Posted : March 27, 2021 1:49 pm
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@rj-schneider

Too many stop with the nail find.?ÿ You, quite obviously did not.?ÿ Kudos to you and the proper training of your guys.


 
Posted : March 27, 2021 2:06 pm
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@mightymoe the pipe fits within 0.2' of the distance call in the 80's deed. It also fits well with calls to other monuments to the North. The nail was one of seven corners set by the surveyor around 2009 and was the only corner of his that the crew was able to find. Granted the other corners were in the middle of farmed fields but we usually set corners in actively farmed fields at least 2' deep so they don't get knocked out. I really believe some surveyor's set corners at grade in hopes that they do get knocked out!


 
Posted : March 29, 2021 7:43 am

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@cyril-turner

If a plow can swing by the tree and a blade accidentally hooks the top of the nail and pulls it out it would do everybody a favor.?ÿ


 
Posted : March 29, 2021 7:49 am
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@mightymoe it will be a reference corner to the pipe in my description.


 
Posted : March 29, 2021 10:51 am
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@rj-schneider my guess is the crew for the other surveyor had a calc position for the pipe and when there happened to be a mesquite tree where the corner was they didn't bother looking. I've followed this guy before on another property and his call back to the section corner on that one missed by 400' so I don't expect much when coming in behind him.


 
Posted : March 29, 2021 12:06 pm
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Edit to my previous reply. Distance from the pipe at the NW corner of property to the pipe found under tree branch at NE corner of property vs. distance from pipe at NW corner to nail is 0.7' different. The distance between the nail and the pipe under the tree branch is roughly 2'.?ÿ


 
Posted : March 29, 2021 12:10 pm
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@Cyril-Turner

Did you talk to the other surveyor?

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Posted : March 29, 2021 2:18 pm

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