Certification

I've seen it rarely in CA, but never as an either/or situation. It was always as two surveyors taking responsibility for the survey. Your example seems a little odd: It might of been Bill, or it might of been Bob.

Don

Does the cert have both signatures? Curious if it may be a generic cert with both names and maybe whoever was in the office signed?

I have seen survey plats that had 2 PLS's listed in the cert & both signed...

that is just lazy. 2 pls in the office, they don't want to take time to 'personalize' it depending on who signs.

LAZY!

i had a well known surveyor in our area call me a couple of months ago wanting a cad file of a subdivision i did. about 25 lots and half of them bordered a creek. the creek had about 150 calls along the boundary for about 12 lots. when i ask why she wanted the cad file, the plat was recorded at the county, was there a problem with our closure or something?? she said that they were doing 'builder services' and just wanted to help me out and make sure that all of my stuff was good. i called BS. i told her i thought she was just being lazy and didn't want to punch in all of those creek calls so they could fit some houses in for some builders. she wanted my cad file to save her the work of actually surveying the lots, or even the work of punching them in for computation. she didn't like that and threatened 'what goes around comes around'. i told her to pound sand.

LAZY!

Whoever signs and seals it owns it. Not likely the other surveyor could get too far away from any liability however.

What would really bollux it up is one signs and and it is sealed with the other's seal.

Paul in PA

> What would really bollux it up is one signs and and it is sealed with the other's seal.

Or how about this situation: I worked for a firm for 10 years before going out on my own in 1993. During that time I got pretty used to drafting map legends that contained lines like "SET 5/8" REBAR LS 5161," 5161 being my boss' license number. Then in 1996, 3+ years after I'd hung out my own shingle, I surveyed some parcels and filed a Record of Survey on which the legend said, yep, "SET 5/8" REBAR LS 5161" instead of "SET 5/8" REBAR LS 5435."

I didn't discover the mistake until 2000 when I was working on an adjacent parcel. I put a note on the new ROS pointing out the blunder, but anyone who had looked for those LS 5161 rebars would have found them tagged LS 5435.

To quote Rick Perry (you won't find me doing this often): "Oops."

> Can a certification really have two names in it?
>
There's a "mortgage mill" outfit around here that has 3 names on it, whoever isn't out with a hangover gets to certify it.

I think it's a complete disregard and a total lack of appreciation for the work that's being done

Not to mention, that if there is a problem, each LS could point fingers at the other

That is an interseting business model......:-| 😐

I can remember visiting another surveyor's office one day and he was busy signing blank clearprint paper.....

> I can remember visiting another surveyor's office one day and he was busy signing blank clearprint paper.....

I have seen similar actions also. That is why nothing goes out with my name on it without an original signature and seal. That is why I also generally use a crimp seal over my signature.