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(@kevin-samuel)
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Can anybody recommend a cartographic reference for land surveying and engineering mapping?

 
Posted : November 29, 2013 8:24 am
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Cartographic Reference Questions ?

Hard to answer, try explaining what you want or intend to refer to.

i.e. do you mean as a form of parcel location?

Paul in PA

 
Posted : November 29, 2013 10:26 am
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Cartographic Reference Questions ?

Not a form per se.

I studied cartography and read numerous texts on thematic maps, relief maps etc.

I have never seen a text focused on the application of cartographic principles on survey plats, topographic surveys etc.

I, like most land surveyors, have my own opinion on what makes a nice map, but I wouldn't mind reading an organized text on the subject.

 
Posted : November 29, 2013 11:15 am
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It's a good question. The principles ought to be the same though.
Cartographic Design and Production by John Keates has more on topo maps than the average carto design book.

 
Posted : November 29, 2013 11:37 am
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It been a long time since I read it, but Gurdon Wattles wrote a book titled "Survey Drafting". It is from the same era as the John Keates book.

 
Posted : November 29, 2013 3:19 pm
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Make it look like these:

Stephen

 
Posted : November 29, 2013 3:23 pm
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Zoomed in a little.

Stephen

 
Posted : November 29, 2013 3:27 pm
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Did you really do that? 😉

 
Posted : November 29, 2013 4:53 pm
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Cartographic reference for survey maps? mr calder

If your map is part of Section 45, how do I know which lines shown on your map
are part of Section 45.

I would think that putting deed reference and ownership on your map would help.

 
Posted : November 29, 2013 5:26 pm
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Cartographic reference for survey maps? mr calder

> If your map is part of Section 45, how do I know which lines shown on your map
> are part of Section 45.
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> I would think that putting deed reference and ownership on your map would help.
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Took me a while to figure out what you were asking... it's in the title block info. Yes, the survey is well tied down. It is in a subdivision and is tied to a corner. It's also at a R/W intersection. The section, township and range is informational only. I definitely do have the vesting deed and the owner shown. It may be cut off in what I posted but it wouldn't be a survey without it.

But really, this is only to show aesthetics, a subject that I have devoted a lot of work and thought to. I studied cartography in college and have always tried to incorporate classical cartographic principles into my survey drawings.

Stephen

 
Posted : November 29, 2013 6:27 pm
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Cartographic reference for survey maps? mr calder

Stephen:

Very nice, I do wish I could generate a map that was that pleasing to the eye. I get all of the information down on paper but it sure doesn't pop like yours. Good work!
:good:

T.W.

 
Posted : November 30, 2013 6:47 am
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Cartographic reference for survey maps? mr calder

Thanks Tom.

I'll share two principles with you that might help some. The first is to strive to make the item being drawn look like what the item looks life in real life if viewed from above. Might sound too basic, but I have seen map drafters work wonders with this compared to those who choose not to. A quick example would be to put dark shade into asphalt areas and to put a granular stippling into concrete areas. This immensely improves the graphic communication of the map compared to simply putting the word CONC. in. Of course it's more work, but well worth it in my view.

The second is give visual prominence to the drawn item that corresponds to the importance of the real world item that it represents. A house is more important than a dog house which can be dragged around if it is over the prop line, therefore it should be drawn with a heavier line. The property line is what it's all about, so... heaviest line. A leader line, which doesn't exist in reality should be drawn with a very light line.

There are a lot of other principles, but these two are foundational.

Stephen

 
Posted : November 30, 2013 8:07 am
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Cartographic reference for survey maps? mr calder

I totally agree!

 
Posted : November 30, 2013 9:03 am
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Cartographic reference for survey maps? mr calder

Excellent points!

 
Posted : November 30, 2013 4:11 pm
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My engineering drawing instructor used to scream at us, "Communicate, communicate, communicate!"

That's what it's all about. Nice job.

 
Posted : December 1, 2013 4:40 pm
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The three basic cartographic texts are:

(1)Cartographic Design and Production by J. S. Keates

(2) Survey Drafting by Gurdon H. Wattles

(3) Elements Of Cartography by Robinson, Sale and Morrison

Very difficult to find, but worth the search wouls be a copy of the Army TM-23A. The current CofE Drafting Standards Manual might be helpfull too.

 
Posted : December 2, 2013 8:54 am