On the boundary survey that I posted the cool monument picture a couple days ago, I had some interesting parole evidence.?ÿ The next door neighbor came out of his very fancy, very new log cabin with chalet type windows looking out over the river while I was searching for corners.?ÿ He was not only the owner but also a builder and my client was sure he had a survey before he built a half million dollar house.?ÿ I asked if he knew where any property corners were and his response was, "I was told it was a buffalo trace on one side and a buffalo trace on the other side and my piece is in the middle".?ÿ His side lines run straight up and down a bluff and no herd of buffalo are going to make a habit out of trying to scramble up that hill.?ÿ Maybe on a long shot, the location of the road could have been an ancient buffalo trail because it does lead to the infamous Big Bone Lick salt lick that many animals traveled to for millenia.
As it turns out, the side property line runs right through his house.?ÿ I'm sure my client will sell him enough property to resolve the issue and give me some more survey work in the bargain.?ÿ There were no fences or occupation to guess where a property might be.?ÿ I have no idea how this guy decided how to place his house.?ÿ Maybe this will be a lesson learned for him for his future builds.
Maybe he was talking about Cottontail Trail or Raccoon Ridge or even Rabbit Hash Hill Road since they are all on the map.?ÿ Maybe he has been on Bender Road too many times.
Being in Kentucky, it might be at the corner of Tarnation and Revenuers, where the gubmit agents gather to run through the briars and run through the brambles.
I've surveyed on all of those roads.?ÿ On Cottontail Trail, I used a long rope to lower myself down the hill to set a corner.?ÿ I appreciate your use of some Johnny Horton lyrics there.?ÿ This region is right at the edge of a lot of work and there was a great migration from the mountains 60-80 years ago and the mountain folks brought there mountain ways.?ÿ My dad accidentally stumbled onto an operating still in his youth and very quietly backed out and never said a word until the guy was dead.?ÿ I can still walk you to a remote location with a steel pipe driven into the hill for a fresh clean water source.?ÿ There used to be remnants of 55 gallon barrels but I'm sure they have rusted away by now.
This is the only Buffalo Trace I know of. ?????ÿ
Get all of that Buffalo Trace you can get.?ÿ There was a fire at their distillery several years ago that was pretty far out in the boondocks.?ÿ If you ever took a tour through a bourbon distillery, they always brag about the limestone spring where they get their special water to make the bourbon.?ÿ After the fire, Buffalo Trace took advantage of situation and moved the distillery closer to Louisville (pronounced Loo-ville by the locals) when they rebuilt.?ÿ I asked about the sacred water source and apparently the water source is now the Greater Louisville metro water supply.?ÿ This seems anathema to the historic distilling process.?ÿ I don't believe any of the new stuff has aged long enough to hit the shelves.?ÿ It will be interesting.
He probably had a surveyor out...?ÿ they looked at the land and drank a bottle???? wish I could have done that today ????????
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@tom-bushelman I'm afraid you are incorrect.?ÿ I am from Frankfort, KY, and was born and raised in the home of Buffalo Trace. There was no fire at their distillery, which lies on the banks of the Kentucky River in Franklin County.?ÿ
You are either referring to the fire at Wild Turkey in 2000, which is about 20 miles away near Lawrenceburg, also on the Kentuck River.?ÿ Or the Jim Beam fire in 2019, which is very close to Louisville.?ÿ The brand of bourbon most impacted my the Jim Beam fire was 1792 and the flavors of Heaven Hill.?ÿ
Maybe I'm thinking of another one.?ÿ I visited about six distilleries in a day with samples at each one so the memories can run together.?ÿ I can remember what the tasting room looked like (sort of semi-circular) but not clearly what was on the wall.?ÿ Maybe Woodford.
So were the distances on the deed by chains, feet, pole (perch) or "hoot & holler"?
Smokes, starting at the oak tree by which Tom Notsosmart was standing when shot by a jealous husband in 1794.
Then East as far as an Indian can walk in an hour to the point on the cliff where the bear jumped off. (actual deed that I have seen)
...He was not only the owner but also a builder and my client was sure he had a survey before he built a half million dollar house. ...
I have no idea how this guy decided how to place his house.?ÿ Maybe this will be a lesson learned for him for his future builds.
Nope.
If your client is at all reasonable, the guy will learn that he can do what he wants, put his house in the best spot, and it will all work out.
If your client makes him cut his house in half, then the guy will learn a lesson.?ÿ
I know this after decades of working with builders. Some learn, others do not. It is directly related to whether it ever REALLY cost them anything. IMHO it is a personality thing. It takes someone with a lot of capacity for risk, and an optimist?ÿ to develop property. Usually the exact opposite of a surveyor, in my observation. We sometimes view it as a character flaw, but they are the grease that makes the engine turn. Some slide through, some get squished.?ÿ
There are so many little details that could destroy them, so many things that they have to let work out as they go along, that it is not strange at all that they view a survey as one of those things, until it squishes them to not have one.
For my part, I appreciate the developers and the builders. They take the risk, they make it happen, and while I cannot understand them fully, I can appreciate what they provide.
If the client is reasonable, he will figure out how much money he can extract from the house builder and sell him an expensive strip of land with a smile.
