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Brown, Boundary Control and Legal Principles (1st edition)

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I'm reading it, interesting. Attorney Landgraf wrote Chapter 2 which is a lot more readable than say CJS Property or CJS Estates (Herman Frederick Landgraf, Calif Bar no. 20093, admitted 1948).

I received a copy (used, of course) of the first edition and second edition for Christmas. After 33 years Christmas is fairly simple...what do you want...I'll send you a link, okay. For her, we were in a store...she says get me one of those (in addition to spending a month building a wall of bookcases for her in the middle bedroom).

 
Posted : 26/12/2016 9:27 am
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Landgraf also gets credit for Chapter 2 in the 2nd edition (1969), which is the one I have.

 
Posted : 26/12/2016 9:33 am
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The only thing Google turns up on Landgraf is a Fred Landgraf who founded a helicopter company in Los Angeles in 1943. I don't know if he is the same person...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landgraf_H-2

 
Posted : 26/12/2016 9:46 am
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The book needs a table of cases.

 
Posted : 26/12/2016 12:54 pm
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Dave Karoly, post: 405979, member: 94 wrote: I'm reading it, interesting. Attorney Landgraf wrote Chapter 2 which is a lot more readable than say CJS Property or CJS Estates (Herman Frederick Landgraf, Calif Bar no. 20093, admitted 1948).

I received a copy (used, of course) of the first edition and second edition for Christmas. After 33 years Christmas is fairly simple...what do you want...I'll send you a link, okay. For her, we were in a store...she says get me one of those (in addition to spending a month building a wall of bookcases for her in the middle bedroom).

My Christmas is very similar after only 4 years

 
Posted : 26/12/2016 1:00 pm
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Dave Karoly, post: 405979, member: 94 wrote: I'm reading it, interesting. Attorney Landgraf wrote Chapter 2 which is a lot more readable than say CJS Property or CJS Estates (Herman Frederick Landgraf, Calif Bar no. 20093, admitted 1948).

I received a copy (used, of course) of the first edition and second edition for Christmas. After 33 years Christmas is fairly simple...what do you want...I'll send you a link, okay. For her, we were in a store...she says get me one of those (in addition to spending a month building a wall of bookcases for her in the middle bedroom).

Neat Dave; I have the 1st, 2nd and 3rd edition. Hope Christmas was good and have a great New Years.

JOHN NOLTON

 
Posted : 26/12/2016 8:26 pm
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JOHN NOLTON, post: 406045, member: 225 wrote: Neat Dave; I have the 1st, 2nd and 3rd edition. Hope Christmas was good and have a great New Years.

JOHN NOLTON

The third seems to be relatively available, it's tempting. I have the fourth already.

 
Posted : 26/12/2016 8:52 pm
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Dave Karoly, post: 406048, member: 94 wrote: The third seems to be relatively available, it's tempting.

The 1st is the only one that is rare. The rest can be had at alibris.com any day of the week. It's just a question of waiting for a good price.

 
Posted : 26/12/2016 10:03 pm
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I found a 1st edition on Amazon for $46 a year or two ago.

 
Posted : 27/12/2016 7:23 am
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I have both Evidence and Procedures and Boundary Control and Legal Principles in the second edition. I also have a newer edition that Mr. Robillard signed at our TAPS conference several years ago. I wish I would have had the 2nd editions also.

Mark is right, I bought my 2nd editions off of either ebay or albris for very reasonable prices. I regularly search those sites for older version of books mentioned here. My library is constantly growing. I just need the time to sit down and read.

 
Posted : 27/12/2016 7:59 am
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I found the first and second on eBay for a buy it now of under $26. I just got lucky and they had been on there a while. I was looking at a first in the boss's bookcase at work and decided I need a copy. Look on eBay and there they are, same seller (got them at an estate sale, I think). I think the second (the blue one) is fairly common. The seller downplayed their condition too, they are in better condition than I thought they would be based on his description.

 
Posted : 27/12/2016 8:19 am
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I just need the time to sit down and read. Jimmy Cleveland wrote: :p
Don't we all.

I read Browns 4th edition of both books cover to cover in College about 16 years ago, Wattles cover to cover as well but since then I tend to just go back in for some highlighted areas. I have a skelton that I have been glossing through for the past 5 years but never have I found the time to dig deep. Same goes for my nice new PINCUSHION Effect from Lucas that I keep telling myself I need to dive into.:(:confused:

 
Posted : 27/12/2016 8:56 am
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Dave Karoly, post: 405998, member: 94 wrote: The book needs a table of cases.

Tom Probst published collections of the California cases and of the Federal cases referenced in BCLP 6. I was able to find the California volume here:
https://www.amazon.com/California-Land-Boundary-Cases-Codes/dp/1448654807/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

You might have to contact Tom for a copy of the Federal volume.

 
Posted : 27/12/2016 10:50 am
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eapls2708, post: 406140, member: 589 wrote: Tom Probst published collections of the California cases and of the Federal cases referenced in BCLP 6. I was able to find the California volume here:
https://www.amazon.com/California-Land-Boundary-Cases-Codes/dp/1448654807/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

You might have to contact Tom for a copy of the Federal volume.

This may be the case you couldn't remember in a discussion months ago where the court chose which ridge based on which ridge fit the area best:

Winans v. Cheney, 55 Cal. 567 (1880)

 
Posted : 27/12/2016 11:36 am
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Posted : 27/12/2016 1:40 pm
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That one has the basic conflict of the one I was thinking of, but I recall the court giving greater discussion to the details. In the case I'm thinking of, there was a call in the deed to a particular ridge, but in the field, there were actually two ridges, just as in this case. But there was the added fact that if the called for ridge was used, the M&B misclosed by a several hundred feet, but if the other ridge was used, the M&B closed well.

 
Posted : 27/12/2016 1:44 pm
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Dave Karoly, post: 406105, member: 94 wrote: I found the first and second on eBay for a buy it now of under $26.

That's a very good price for both. It amounts to $1 for the 2nd edition, and $25 for the 1st edition. If you pay more than a buck for the 2nd edition alone you've paid too much.

 
Posted : 27/12/2016 3:47 pm
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Mark Mayer, post: 406185, member: 424 wrote: That's a very good price for both. It amounts to $1 for the 2nd edition, and $25 for the 1st edition. If you pay more than a buck for the 2nd edition alone you've paid too much.

I paid 26 each ;-).

 
Posted : 27/12/2016 4:48 pm
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Dave Karoly, post: 406193, member: 94 wrote: I paid 26 each

$51 for the 1st edition is still a fair price.

 
Posted : 27/12/2016 5:56 pm
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