Perhaps I should have, but I've never heard of this term. Can/would anyone be able to enlighten me? Got this email today regarding a survey I recently completed:
"...also needs six full size copies of the signed survey mailed to her. Once full size survey should contain the surveyors original signature, and all should have “blue backs” attached to them."
Thanks in advance,
Matt
Blue prints (like from an ammonia copier).
or from Wikipedia:
"In legal parlance, a "blueback" in certain jurisdictions referred to a legal filing, which was submitted with a blue cover on it"
That's a new one on me too. I don't recall ever seeing a map or document with the treatment as shown in Jim's post.
What's the purpose? Is it as a backing to use as some sort of exhibit, to make it easier to locate in a file among many other papers, something else?
Evan
They were traditionally used to add some "heft" to documents that are going to be stored for a long time to protect them (wills, trust documents, etc. that may end up beating around in a safety deposit box for 25 years) and some places still use them to bind for litigation documents submitted to the court.
Kind of like using "ruled pleading paper" for no real reason other than tradition.
It also refers to silver certificates from the 30s 40s and 50s. Green ink on the front and blue on the back. I have a few in my collection. I think the latter ones were blue on both sides and look just like a $5 bill.
"Green backs" referring to dollar bills of today also have a similar background. They weren't always green on both sides. I think they were black inked on the foreface and later made green on the observse to thwart counterfitters. That was probably during the civil war era (I'm guessing).
This has me thinking I should dig out coin, bills and stamp collections to see what I have. I might be sitting on some serious "coin" (pun intended).
As to your "blue backs" I've seen some blueprints that were totally blue and the line work turned white. I was at a surveyor's house wherein he still practiced and did the "old school" amonia stuff. God have mercy, the smell was sickening - and it did me. I went outside and puked. LarryP might know who I'm talking about. Mr. Arrowood. I think he has recently passed.
I'm rambling again. Sorry.
E.
ammonia is used to develop "blue line" prints... the older style of blue background with white lines is a totally different process.
Those things that one attorney hands to another attorney on "Law & Order" just before a commercial.
We don't see genuine "blueprints" anymore because of OSHA. Genuine "blueprints" required potassium cyanide gas to develop the prints. That was entirely way too dangerous for OSHA to allow in downtown business districts ...
That's what I was told, anyway, a long time ago.
I still have a perfectly working blue print machine in my basement. I have been trying to get rid of it for a few years now because I hate to throw anything away. Plus the garbage man probably won't take it. But more than likely, it has been powered up for the last time.
Oh... and please hand deliver them to my office...
Oh... and please use the best quality vellum...
Oh... and please do it for x amount of dollars...
Tell her to blue back 'em herself
also a bait fish used for stripe bass around here.
blueback herring
Hi all, thanks for the info - here's what I ended up getting from the client:
"Let me add some further clarification to what we mean when we refer to "bluebacks". Matt is correct as to what a "blueback" actually is - the thick blue paper, folded at the top and stapled. However, the term "Blueback", as we use it here refers to something a little more. Heather is correct in that we do require a copy of the map to be on mylar with an original signature and stamp for our records, regardless of whether or not the map is also filed at the courthouse. However, the mylar map will NOT have a blueback attached to it - ever.
What we refer to as a "blueback" is actually a copy of the Tract Description Report, with a copy of the map folded up and placed after the actual description and before the map certification page. The map is folded so that it can be unfolded and viewed without having to actually take the blueback apart to look at the map. It is almost like an origami art form getting our larger maps to do this, as we put our map title information in the upper left hand corner of the map and fold the map so it (the map title) is still visible after it is all folded up. You do NOT have to redo your map format to match our map format.
My apologies for the confusion. We deal with a lot of tracts of land, some surveyed, some not. As every surveyed tract ends up with a bluebacked report, we eventually started using the generic term "bluebacks" to differentiate a tract that has been surveyed versus one that has not. We all know what we mean by that but sometimes forget the rest of the world hasn't got a clue what we are talking about.
Hope that clears up the confusion or at least makes the muddy water a little clearer."
Cheers